Premium Members Amando Crespo Posted November 14, 2009 Premium Members Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Juan: Every DP I hav worked with on an HD job (including myself!) has wanted a clean HD image at the monitor rather than a transmitted SD image, for understandable reasons. Until recently this has meant an HD SDI cable. These transmitters deliver an uncompromised image that is functionally identical to being hard wired, which is one step closer to getting the camera back to the freedom of a film setup. This of course assumes a camera with onboard recording capability. There isn't yet an expectation for us to own one of thes transmitters, but in the meantime, there's money to be made on rentals, since it is an item that the DP will likely request in the camera package, and thus we can charge an a la carte fee for the HD transmitter. I made a comparation.... with cable I sended video, and watching with wave form and vectorscope monitor. After I did the same with Titan signal... and the result was the same.... To get limits I walked with my gear so far away (no lineal view from transmiter to reciver), twist, move..... and the signal didn´t move, or never drop.... About the H-D quality, I can´t said... because I hadn´t measure equipement... For eye view, vectorscope and wave form, the Titan was perfect. The only problem is the big size it have. Best regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members chris fawcett Posted November 14, 2009 Author Premium Members Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 The only problem is the big size it have. You worry about shit like this on your birthday? Is hell not open where you are? Un abrazo fuerte desde Amsterdam! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Amando Crespo Posted November 14, 2009 Premium Members Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 The only problem is the big size it have. You worry about shit like this on your birthday? Is hell not open where you are? Un abrazo fuerte desde Amsterdam! Of course, dude...like you know... The HELL will be open near me. I´ve the keys. But this year, for my B-day I didn´t party...Only with Anita.... romantic restaurant...and..love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members chris fawcett Posted November 14, 2009 Author Premium Members Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 See you in hell ;) (EDIT: sorry, forgot what this thread was supposed to be about) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Juan M.Ramos SOC Posted November 14, 2009 Premium Members Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Thanks Guys!!!!!!!!!!I will think about it....but 10K euros?......let me thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Charles Papert Posted November 14, 2009 Premium Members Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 How about a Camwave for $3500 euros then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members JobScholtze Posted November 14, 2009 Premium Members Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 How about a Camwave for $3500 euros then? Wich works great btw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Amando Crespo Posted November 14, 2009 Premium Members Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Thanks Guys!!!!!!!!!!I will think about it....but 10K euros?......let me thinking. You´ve reason Juan. Jacques said me that Transvideo is working in a model for light cameras and steadicam use.....Without sound channels, lighter.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Alec Jarnagin SOC Posted November 15, 2009 Moderators Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Problem is that I'd love an all mighty HD transmitter, but the truth is that I've been bitterly disappointed in the Wevi (CamWave, IDX, sorry I'm so unimpressed I can't remember the multiple names). Used it for an entire feature earlier this year and the results were modest at best. Used it the last couple of days on a commercial and it was the same result; after my first rehearsal on day one, the VTR guy was there - ready with a thick BNC and a confused look, when I wouldn't let him plug in because I was on a 85mm. Granted, it's NYC but come on... ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members JobScholtze Posted November 15, 2009 Premium Members Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Problem is that I'd love an all mighty HD transmitter, but the truth is that I've been bitterly disappointed in the Wevi (CamWave, IDX, sorry I'm so unimpressed I can't remember the multiple names). Used it for an entire feature earlier this year and the results were modest at best. Used it the last couple of days on a commercial and it was the same result; after my first rehearsal on day one, the VTR guy was there - ready with a thick BNC and a confused look, when I wouldn't let him plug in because I was on a 85mm. Granted, it's NYC but come on... ???? We've got to move on and come up with a real HD transmitter...... I wonder what happens overthere. I used it for the last 9 days without any problems. We had one dropout in 9 days. And thats becose i really was out of sight. Granted, it dasnt do major distances, but 40 meters is without problems. The Boxx or transvideo is perhaps better in distance, but the pricetag .......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Juan M.Ramos SOC Posted November 15, 2009 Premium Members Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 The problem if you buy something that works some times for 3500 is really expensive and 10K is almost imposible;It is like start again with RF devices,some times works,some times didn't.Some DPs works with Red as film camera,check the rehersal with cable and after they let you fly alone;others wants to work with the cable all the time as in a TV station. I know that the director wants to watch the take all the time and I usually use the titan monitors linked and director came with me or close to me and the vtr usually plug cable and I will try to explain how difficult is to do it,depens of the lens.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Jens Piotrowski SOC Posted November 15, 2009 Premium Members Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Alec, did you use the high power (50mW) setting and tried different channels? JP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Alec Jarnagin SOC Posted November 15, 2009 Moderators Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 Jens, Don't know about the power settings (we had a DIT who dealt with all that). Manually selecting a channel in Times Square (RF hell) produced better results than the auto-select. In fairness, a UHF transmitter doesn't do well in that part of town either. I may have been a tad harsh in my last post because when it works, it works well and it does provide an accurate exposure guide for the DP which is great. I was just hoping for more out of it. I should add that I used the standard definition version on a film job in Boston recently because we were getting horrible interference at out first location with both a Dynawave and a Canatrans so they ran out and got the SD Wevi and it worked like a charm (the Director was directing via Satellite from Germany so the image really had to be good). The next day, we were at a different location and couldn't get it to link up at all and it was useless so I turned on my Dynawave and it was flawless. Go figure. More tools for the Arsenal. I'm just eager for a more ergonomic design that handle standard def too and hopefully improved range and readability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members RonBaldwin Posted November 15, 2009 Premium Members Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 If someone gets hold of a Titan in the LA area, let's arrange a shootout between that, the Boxx system and the Camwave. I'll bring the lisagav, beer and the aluminum foil to put on our heads. I'm using the camwave on a show now and it's actually working pretty well, but the assistants really have to be on top of where the receivers are placed. The new Titan looks really cool (and $$!) but if it works better than the others it's hard to be too cranky about the price. rb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Alec Jarnagin SOC Posted November 15, 2009 Moderators Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 I think Ron's point about the receiver is a good one. What these units should have is an external antenna that can go up in the air, over equipment, but leave the receiver on the cart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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