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Has anyone gotten around to doing a side by side comparison of the various HD transmitters? I know there was some discussion about such an undertaking a while back but I’m not sure if it happened or not.

 

I’m thinking about taking the plunge, but I haven’t seen them all, and certainly not side by side. I like the fact that Transvideo has an office here in Los Angeles and have been very good when issues arise with my monitors. I’m not sure where either Camwave or Boxx are based, but my guess is not in LA. If anyone has purchased any of these systems for their rig, could you please give a brief pro/con rundown of why that system works for you, and why you went with it over the other systems? Thank you for your time.

 

Brooks Robinson

 

PS Do any of these systems work with a standard def signal, enabling you to use it with film cameras? This would be a big consideration for me since most of my jobs are still 35mm.

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Has anyone gotten around to doing a side by side comparison of the various HD transmitters? I know there was some discussion about such an undertaking a while back but I’m not sure if it happened or not.

 

I’m thinking about taking the plunge, but I haven’t seen them all, and certainly not side by side. I like the fact that Transvideo has an office here in Los Angeles and have been very good when issues arise with my monitors. I’m not sure where either Camwave or Boxx are based, but my guess is not in LA. If anyone has purchased any of these systems for their rig, could you please give a brief pro/con rundown of why that system works for you, and why you went with it over the other systems? Thank you for your time.

 

Brooks Robinson

 

PS Do any of these systems work with a standard def signal, enabling you to use it with film cameras? This would be a big consideration for me since most of my jobs are still 35mm.

 

 

IDX (Camwave) is based in Torrance. They have 2 full time technicians....

 

 

 

IDX System Technology, Inc.

 

19001 Harborgate Way, Suite 105, Torrance CA 90501

Phone : (310) 891-2800 Fax : (310) 891-3600

 

pros:

size and weight

price ($4800 at Nebtek)

customer service

2 years warranty

good image quality

no visible delay (1ms)

uncompressed HD-SDI

 

cons:

range limited to about 50yards, all systems (boxx,transvideo) have the same range due to FCC limitation in power

 

the boxx works with SD signals, but transmitts them the same digital way, so you cannot see them on a handheld ntsc Tv....... I'm using both on my sled the canatrans and the idx in parallel....

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Boxx are in the UK. The Meridian does do composite as well as SDI and HD-SDI. Also, at the receiver, it automatically downconverts from HD-SDI or SDI to composite. So it can output both HD and SD at once...with no delay.

 

Also a useful way of implementing the old analogue gear - I have a 2.4.Ghz Teletest link too. A great idea is to loop the TX for that out of the composite RX of the Boxx. Because the Teletest anlogue TX is no longer moving in space, it works a million times better. So now it is possible to send a HD-SDI feed to a big director's monitor, 17" or whatever, other SD monitors, such as continuity etc, and also to a portable LCD for anyone who needs to be on the move.

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Thanks Jens and Jason for the info. I have used the IDX system several times with good results, although I wasn’t exactly testing its limits. The price point seems good, however, I’m shying away from it a little, as I would ideally like a system that allowed me to use it on both HD and 35mm jobs.

 

I’ve also heard nice things about the Boxx Meridian as well as the Transvideo Titan HD, and I believe that both of these systems will work with standard def 35mm film camera taps (is that correct?) in addition to HD. Has anyone looked at both of these systems, either side by side or independently, and have an opinion? I’m wondering about size, weight, range, power consumption, etc. I have read about all three units in the archives, but nothing that compared the units to each other in real world conditions.

 

The other question I have is whether or not these systems are available to purchase at the moment. I know that the IDX is out and available. I called Transvideo in North Hollywood and talked to Noel. If I understood him correctly, they aren’t going to be available for purchase here in LA until after NAB. Again, I might have misunderstood. It sounds like the Boxx Meridian is out now, although I haven’t called about it. I don’t know anyone in Los Angeles that owns one, and I’d like to hear more about it and the company customer service before making a commitment to something made and serviced overseas.

 

Thanks again for any information about these three HD systems.

 

Brooks Robinson

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I hope they get rid of the ginormous antennas.

 

Ron,

 

the new T/x have new antennas. They are similiar to the antennas on the Titan HD R/x. Only that Boxx has 2 antennas. For costumers who have the first version with the humongous antennas, they do an upgrade. Boxx will change the antennas to the new ones for £250. As a result, range will also improve 10%.

 

LE

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Ron and Lars,

 

Thanks for the info. The Boxx system sounds good. As per your suggestion Ron, I’ll drop Steve a line about the Boxx system, but does anyone who hasn’t chimed in have any experience with it – good or bad? It’s a lot of money to drop on something, and I’d like to be sure I’m making a wise choice. Thanks in advance for any replies.

 

Brooks

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Hi All,

 

I received my Titan HD system last night. I'll be organising a test soon in Amsterdam with some local ops and ACs. Then I'll take it on the road to see how it performs in the real world.

 

My oh my, it's one beautiful piece of kit, as you'd expect from Transvideo. I'll keep you all posted as to its performance.

 

Fly untethered,

 

Chris

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Ron and Lars,

 

Thanks for the info. The Boxx system sounds good. As per your suggestion Ron, I’ll drop Steve a line about the Boxx system, but does anyone who hasn’t chimed in have any experience with it – good or bad? It’s a lot of money to drop on something, and I’d like to be sure I’m making a wise choice. Thanks in advance for any replies.

 

Brooks

 

BoXX $9000

TITAN HD Light pack (Tx + Rx) €4,500 ($6150)

IDX $4800

 

why does the system need to be able to accept an SD (NTSC) signal?

 

all three system work with one transmitter/receiver pair unless you buy multiple units. even if you transmit your picture to your receiver that is located at the video village, you are cutting out all others (sound department/make-up/hair, ...) and also your hand-held monitors. it makes much more sense to transmit both the HD-SDI signal to the video village and a down converted signal via analog broadcast (canatrans) for everybody else....

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Jens,

 

To me, I want the system to transmit standard definition (analog and not SDI) as well so I can use it on film jobs too. It would be a pity to have a 5 to 10K system that sits in a case on film jobs especially when you know how good the image COULD look. As you already said, then you can re-transmit on a Canatrans, etc for other departments.

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"I want the system to transmit standard definition (analog and not SDI)"

 

none! of the systems is doing that, it's illegal, the boxx is taking the analog NTSC signal converts it into a digital signal, transmit it and then on the receiver side down-converts it again into analog (NTSC), how long is that going to take.......delay...

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