Premium Members Rob Vuona SOC Posted May 5, 2010 Premium Members Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 Ya'll should ask Scott Hoffman, I'm pretty sure he's the one flying 3-D the most. I was over at the Camera House Friday and they were prepping the a 3-D rig with 2 reds and they said he was flying it . . . . uuugh it looked like a beast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Thomas English Posted May 6, 2010 Premium Members Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 With 2 REDs the Prestons are too heavy. You need to use C-Motions. Drop the CamWave. Your teathered anyway. I have kept my modulus on for the directors run monitor but stuff a CamWave. There is currently no genlocked transmittable two channel solution for 3D. Drop the Archos. Drop the Power Cubes. You need lighter batteries and a longer post. Powercubes are too heavy. Drop the motors from your topstage if you can easily. You can't afford the extra weight. Drop the nose cone on an Ultra 2 with its electronics. It comes off easily. You'll be able to get 2 REDs onto an Ultra 2. Remember though that there is a couple of lbs of genlock boxs and crap like that as well. Thanks Rob. I'll be in touch with him. It s definitely interesting to get in touch with people as stupid as oneself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Alfeo Dixon SOC Posted May 6, 2010 Premium Members Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 I loved the C-Motion system when I first saw it a few years back. They weren't in the states yet with support and sales so the pricing was higher than the Preston. I can see dropping the CamWave (other than putting weight on the bottom of sled), I was thinking of just transmitting the eye I would operate from in HD... but Modulus and Decimator are way lighter up top. In terms of HD 3D transmitted signal... I have not tried it, but would be interested if its possible. I remember when I used the Transvideo 3D view monitor there was a RCLK SDI out. I'm wondering if that will send the locked signal on screen to another HDSDI monitor? rear of monitor PowerCubes are only 1.65lbs each what would be lighter and supply that much power? RED Batts... LOL!!! Cant see losing the motors on the topstage, they are only a few ounces. Nose can be turned around backwards instead of removing to keep your electronics working (remote balance & electronic bubble level) Archos... first thing to go Its been a while, but I can't remember with the REDs if you had to leave the sync box attached for genlock, thought they were fixing that issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Thomas English Posted May 6, 2010 Premium Members Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 The solution to TX 3D would be to use a 3D brain to recompose the two cameras as side by side squeezed images and then to CamWave it out there. Lets keep quite about that for now eh? The Transiveo 3D 12inch that we've bought does not seem to have a viable signal out to send to another 3D monitor. I've not really had time to play with it but thats the word I've had back. I would recomend PAG L95e batteries. They can do 7 to 10 amps before fusing out unlike the REDs at 6amps. The REDs are far too heavy. L95e s seem to come in at the same weight as the Powercubes! Are you sure the powercubes are that light? I remember them being heavier but hey.. I'm a little dim sometimes so I probably missed that one. The really important thing is that you don't let some dim DIT come and start plugging in RED monitors or viewfinders into your setup. Your going to be so close to the wire Amps wise on your power distribution that they can literally piss off. They are not allowed under any circumstances to plug any view finders or RED monitors. They can work off the back of the RED camera or power the camera down, re-route power and use what they want. I recomend a few loud swear words at this point because they will try and it could fry your centre cable/lemo connectors. Remember to turn the power boosters off on the c-motions. With them on they will suck up to 4 amps. Two of them doing that is a rig fry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Thomas English Posted May 6, 2010 Premium Members Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Something weird happened there with the forum duplicating my previous comments. Probably my fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Eric Fletcher S.O.C. Posted May 6, 2010 Premium Members Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 I recomend a few loud swear words at this point because they will try and it could fry your centre cable/lemo connectors. Remember to turn the power boosters off on the c-motions. With them on they will suck up to 4 amps. Two of them doing that is a rig fry. Just for the record. Not all rigs havebthe issue. The XCS Ultimate does not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Thomas English Posted May 6, 2010 Premium Members Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Something weird happened there with the forum duplicating my previous comments. Probably my fault. Yes, currenty the synch box's seem to have to stay on board and they will cause everyone a headache except you because its down time party time. I think we are using the lockit box's. I dunno how the Gen10 will be. Stereoscopers land and their headache and believe you me its a headache for the poor boys and girls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Thomas English Posted May 6, 2010 Premium Members Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Yes Eric, The XCS does seem like an attractive option. A solid no adjustment topstage and full power bom shiva. What can it really handle? 6amps RED camera 4 amps (2 x 2 amps C-motions) 1 amp genlocks 1 amp decimator and modulus? 12 amps? no problem? or 16 amps with the C-Motion boosters on? The other camera I power from a cable up the front. I seem to be managing fine with my MK-V and I am hoping the Epic s will make these jobs a lot easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Eric Fletcher S.O.C. Posted May 6, 2010 Premium Members Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 Yes Eric, The XCS does seem like an attractive option. A solid no adjustment topstage and full power bom shiva. What can it really handle? 6amps RED camera 4 amps (2 x 2 amps C-motions) 1 amp genlocks 1 amp decimator and modulus? 12 amps? no problem? or 16 amps with the C-Motion boosters on? The other camera I power from a cable up the front. I seem to be managing fine with my MK-V and I am hoping the Epic s will make these jobs a lot easier. 20 amps on the XCS is no problem. That MK-V is overtaxed at 6 amps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Robert Starling SOC Posted May 6, 2010 Premium Members Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 This is a hair off-topic but didn't I hear somewhere that MK-V is or was going out of business or maybe just reorganizing? :huh: If I'm wrong please don't blast me out, I'm just asking. Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Thomas English Posted May 6, 2010 Premium Members Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 MK-V isn't going out of business. They seem to have opened an Australian office. The V3 electronics boxs are working fine with the ampage I put through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Robert Starling SOC Posted May 6, 2010 Premium Members Report Share Posted May 6, 2010 MK-V isn't going out of business. They seem to have opened an Australian office. The V3 electronics boxs are working fine with the ampage I put through it. Good to know! Thanks! Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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