Hytron 50

[Jason Torbitt]

P.s. I've kept my identity secret as I don't want to ruin my name by joining in stupid silly arguments

Voice of reason

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Two points:

 

A - Why hide your identity? In some ways that's worse than anything else, it's just childish. If you have a point of view on an issue, then say it. Nobody respects someone like this. (Plus it degrades the quality of this forum)

 

B - It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out who you are anyway

 

On the Anton Bauer issue, it is understandable why they would choose to protect their revenue, from a business point of view. Rob is correct by saying it is forcing their mount onto consumers. It isn't neccesserily better than PAG or anything else, but by removing the option of compatible chargers, AB is protecting its own best interests by forcing consumers to purchase their chargers.

 

It's annoying, but it's also understandable, as Michael points out.

[RobinThwaites]

Hi Guys

 

I don't usually get involved in politics or politically sensetive discussions however a very well respected friend in the battery business told me that he predicted that in 3-5 years everything would be v-lock in any case. As someone who sells all systems I can tell you that I have noticed the change starting.

 

Robin Thwaites

OpTex

London

[RobVanGelder]

So it could mean a (desparate?) attempt from AB to push their mount through?

 

I´m all for V-lock, it is lighter on camera and battery side, strong enough, good electrical contact and cheaper.

[Charles Papert]

Is the idea that AB will go out of business in 3-5 years?! Even then, I would think there would be some sort of 3rd party that would keep everyone who have invested in Gold Mount systems functional...it's rather hard to imagine that rather large group just walking away from their investment?

 

Voice of reason--I can't hear you...were you saying something?

[voice of reason!]

Yes I was saying something!

 

just asking for people to calm down and stop fighting with each other! there's enough stuff going on in the world with out us lot fighting too!

 

I respect all the ops on this site!! ALL!!!!!

 

I was also agreeing with the statement about companys protecting there interests too! though I wish somebody had told me about the v-lock thing earlier as i've just got a shed load of pag gear!

 

anyway I won't be posting under my covert name as I agree it is childish! it's just I didn't want to join in a silly arguement and get draw into a fight with people I work with and respect! so I shielded my name!

 

As an added note I wish to add who i'm not as people seem to think it's easy to guess who I am!

 

I'm not:-

Steve byro (or however you spell his name AKA sled kidnapper)

Howard smith

Michael stumpf

Peter abraham

[Charles Papert]

<<anyway I won't be posting under my covert name as I agree it is childish!>>

 

I believe you just did.

 

There's nothing wrong with wanting everyone to chill out, however, I don't think just coming on the board and announcing that will have much effect. This forum has a tradition of real-name users to keep things upfront and honest, to avoid anonymous flame wars; waltzing in with an olive branch wearing a hooded cloak is a noble but misplaced gesture. Show a little backbone--anyone who would think less of you for suggesting peace is not someone you should care about offending.

 

Personally, I find the proceedings here somewhat amusing. The civility and nobility of the Knights of the Green Screen long ago gave way to the Dark Ages, at least as far as this forum is concerned (there are still a few secret ceremonies held in musty cellars from time to time). I mourned the loss then; now, I simply stop by less and less as do many other once-regulars. Still, who isn't morbidly fascinated by a multi-car pileup like this one?

[Nicholas M. Chopp]

Yeah, batteries. What a great issue to get into a pissing contest over. Whoo-hoo. Anyone else having fun yet?

[Jason Williams]

I agree, there are bigger things to worry about, let alone batteries, thousands of people lost their lives at the beginning of this year, so for all the hard working Steadicam operators who might have to change batteries, that is something very small to worry about, at least you have your life.

 

Just my 2 cents .... not getting involved in battery matters.

 

Jason

[RobVanGelder]

:(

The sad thing in this discussion is that only a few people ( and also sadly often the same people...) use this board not only to post Steadicam related questions but also feel the need to attack other operators personally.

 

It was just a technical question to start with, some opinions were thrown in which is perfectly normal but than someone starts to go personal.

 

NO NEED FOR THAT!!!!!

 

Please gentlemen, please limit yourself to what is really interesting and suitable for the given subject.

That would clear up this mess a lot!

 

And others that are chiming in with flowers and love or are referring to what else is wrong in the world: WRONG FORUM!

Just because you are able to say something doesn´t mean that you have to!

 

Even I am getting tired of this..... :unsure:

[Guest sebastian matthias]

hey "voice of reason"

what a silly name is this and why are you hiding your identity ?

if you can´t stand up for your opinion on some topic just don´t make a poin´t .that is my opinion.

 

sebastian

[Guest sebastian matthias]

......and what i also wanted to say....keep your batteries charged ! :blink:

[Guest sebastian matthias]

hey "voice of reason"

what a silly name is this and why are you hiding your identity ?

if you can´t stand up for your opinion on some topic just don´t make a poin´t .that is my opinion.

 

sebastian

[JamieSilverstein]

BACK TO THE BATTERY ISSUE:

The manufacturer of an item makes a choice. Do I want to be an island alone or do I want to allow people to incorporate my technology into the broader picture. When a manufacturer either becomes big enough (read powerful) or threatened enough (read not liking the change in the bottom line) or both, the response is to retrench. Hold on to what is theirs jealously. The market can respond in many ways, either by marching in step,with a big outcry thus forcing a change in corporate policy, or just walking away from the product........

If Anton Bauer is becoming an island, and many end users are going to switch, then the result will be the way of CP. I can't imagine holding on to older technology, at what in the steadicam world is NOT the greatest of costs, battery replacement.

I bought Anton Bauer stuff after I sold my Masters Series sled and batteries. I wanted something that was as versatile as possible, and something that everyone else in the States had. I didn't really concern myself with the European market because all of my work was in the States. If Anton Bauer is not the battery of choice in the US and if it becomes more difficult to find out and around, then I'll change to another, more available battery vendor. Nothing is forever, batteries not withstanding.