cidion Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 Hi everyone, I'm looking for something that will fly somewhere in the 20-23lb range. I don't need follow focus, or anything for now. I was looking for a used Provid, EFP, or 3A, but open to others. Some say the SK would fly a D-Beta camera, but I'm a little nervous about that. Piecing together a rig is an option as well, and I heard can be less cost. This will be my first rig, so I would need some help finding compatible parts if I went in that direction. I've checked a couple of online brokers, but thought i'd try my luck here. any ideas? Bryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members chris fawcett Posted April 25, 2005 Premium Members Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 Dear Bryan, I've put a Digibeta on a Flyer. It flew well, with plenty to spare. The absolute max for a Flyer is just under 19lbs camera weight, though this may void your warranty with Tiffen. Don't forget to shed the battery and viewfinder for your calculations. Good Luck, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Steel Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 I'm selling off my Master Series Broadcast system. Go to my website for more info and images: www.steadicams.com I want to use the money as a deposit for Howards New System. So dig deep guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidion Posted April 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2005 Chris: I guess I'm not to opposed to an SK (i'm new, so I'm asuming that's a flyer?) but I was wanting to be prepared in case i needed to fly something larger. I was hoping to start just one notch higher than an SK, is that silly? (i'm just a little nervous about this purchase, since it's more than all 3 of our cars combined. =) Rich: My friend at a local film school (prof) just got a Broadcase Master. What is your asking price? Nice photos BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members chris fawcett Posted April 26, 2005 Premium Members Report Share Posted April 26, 2005 Bryan, This is a Flyer http://www.steadicam.com/flyerDocs/Steadicam_Flyer_r.pdf It's the lightest rig Steadicam makes (as far as i know). It's quite cheap, but that's not why I bought it. It flies everything I need to be able to fly, and its light weight allows me to fly longer. Don't allow price to influence you too much. Buy whatever you need to do the job, but don't consider the smaller rigs inferior. Each has its function. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidion Posted April 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2005 Don't allow price to influence you too much. Buy whatever you need to do the job, but don't consider the smaller rigs inferior. Each has its function. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ah, I see... that's pretty tiny! doesn't cost much either, being new that is. I think I have been considering the smaller rigs as inferior. But I'm realizing that is not smart thinking. My friend who bought the broadcast master, will be flying an Aaton AMinima. Something your flyer could do, and not weigh as much. (no offence to the Broadcast Master owners naturally) Anyway.. I know that 90% of what I do will be 16x9 with a digibeta, with chances to fly a cinealta. I'm assuming any film work I would be doing would be super 16, so nothing terribly heavy. I have been looking at a ProVid2+, but want to get the best one for what I will be doing. Or hope to be doing. =) Thanks for the continued input. Bryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members chris fawcett Posted April 26, 2005 Premium Members Report Share Posted April 26, 2005 Bryan, Good luck, whatever you buy. Any information particular to operating the Flyer, I'll be happy to help with. For information regarding other systems, trawl the forum archives. And before anyone else beats me to it: consider taking a workshop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidion Posted April 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2005 Yep, a workshop is in the mix. I was planning one 2 years ago, but thought the money would be better spent on a rig first. I have a semi-local friend that has, and will do more one on one training with me, but spending a week in it will be good for me. I'll search around on the archives today and in the future. -bryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members chris fawcett Posted April 27, 2005 Premium Members Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 Bryan, If by some remote chance, you live near Amsterdam, I'll be happy to give you a turn too--and this offer is open to anyone. It's no substitute for the workshop though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members JobScholtze Posted April 27, 2005 Premium Members Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 chris, Do you live in Amsterdam :o That´s 15 minuts from my place :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members chris fawcett Posted April 27, 2005 Premium Members Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 chris, Do you live in Amsterdam :o That´s 15 minuts from my place :P <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Give me a call sometime. 06 2391 8492 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidion Posted April 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 Hello everyone, I have the oppurtunity to buy an older EFP rig, from someone I know. Here are the details, at least the ones I remember. (it's a rig that I have used, and it's in good condition) Blue Springs Wireles video transmitter (UHF) Seitz WFF -only one motor, with cables for 2 motors. Short C-stand 4 Anton Bauer Batteries / Fast Charger Low mode clamp /and cage / Bracket that works on SR1-2-3 and 35.3 Viewfinder video tap for older Arriflex cameras. Hmm, what else. Never fallen with it... i can't think of anything else. Does that sound ok? He's still thinking about the price, but $15K was mentioned, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members RobVanGelder Posted April 28, 2005 Premium Members Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 I´m not sure you have a good deal there. The arm might be ok for video work, but if your future is more CineAlta stuff, you might want to go for something bigger. Cinealta stuff is easily expanded with all kinds of special lenses, film-to-HD convertors, signal converters,li-ion batteries and therefore needs bigger and better follow focus, baseplates etc. A full size (Panavised) CineAlta easily compares in weight with a full size 35mm syn-sound camera, only a lot bigger/longer! Looking at the offered set: The Seitz might be working ok but is outdated. the motor is probaby ok for video work but regarded as sloooow with many film lenses. The batteries are not enough for HD, only to power the sled and acc. Is the rig switchable for 12 to 24 volts (2 battery system)? The low-mode adapters are for outdated camera´s (except the SR3) and the video tap you will most likely never use. <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidion Posted April 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Thanks Rob for the advice. Right now I work for a production company that does everything in D-Beta, 16x9. They won't be doing HD anytime soon, and I don't anticipate doing freelance with someone who does, although I wouldn't want to turn down a job that needed to use a CineAlta. The previous owner, has been using the same rig with CineAlta, and has said it's been working fine. but I'm new to this, so I'm just as many opinions as I can =). Of the assecories that were listed, would there be any that you would keep? If not, would you think they would fetch much if I (or he) were to resell them? Bryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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