Jim Nelson Posted March 28, 2013 Report Posted March 28, 2013 So, I recently got a Pilot, and as I'm getting used to operating it, I finally figured out why it was putting a lot of strain on my lower back muscles. I have a somewhat protruding but muscular upper abdomen combined with a sunken chest, which puts the vest center bar and arm mount at a backwards angle when I stand with the rig weight balanced over my center of gravity. Standing so the lower pivot point is perpendicular to the ground and the arm swings freely involves leaning forward, which involves a bit of back strain. So, is there a kit or something available to make the fore/aft arm mount angle more adjustable than the small amount afforded in the thumbscrews in the mount itself? I'd like to figure out how to use this thing for longer periods without worrying about muscle exhaustion. Quote
Premium Members Janice Arthur Posted March 28, 2013 Premium Members Report Posted March 28, 2013 Jim It's not just your stomach. You're doing other stuff wrong if your back hurts w a pilot steadicam Take a workshop or ask a local op to help u. Second if it really is an issue w vest stick a small rolled up towel in the top of the vest to even out the vest w your stomach Good luck 1 Quote
Premium Members Eric Fletcher S.O.C. Posted March 28, 2013 Premium Members Report Posted March 28, 2013 A pilot and back pain? You're doing it wrong. Go to a workshop or find an experienced operator near you and hire them to teach you the basic. I'm running a 62lbs sled all day and no back pain Quote
Premium Members RonBaldwin Posted March 28, 2013 Premium Members Report Posted March 28, 2013 Eric...re-weigh your set up with a prime instead of your normal set up with the 12 to 1, antlers, and dynamic balance calculator. Then it will be a more manageable sub - 55lb sled! Quote
Premium Members Eric Fletcher S.O.C. Posted March 28, 2013 Premium Members Report Posted March 28, 2013 Sorry Ron I was including the arm in that weight Quote
Jim Nelson Posted March 28, 2013 Author Report Posted March 28, 2013 Hadn't thought about a towel or something similar. Was more just seeing if there we a nifty kit to reorient the arm pivot mount - my back is not normal (minor lordosis) so a prominent belly and receding chest make me a little harder to fit out. Might fire up my CAD skills and have an angled arm mount made for me at a local machine shop if I can't rig the vest. Quote
Premium Members Victor Lazaro Posted March 28, 2013 Premium Members Report Posted March 28, 2013 I second taking the workshop prior to going crazy with cad designs and machine fees. If you can't correct the issue by a position of your pelvis, then only I would consider adding a piece you engineered right in the pivot where the weight of the whole rig sits. The towel is a nice idea too (I know a few operators that uses extra padding to customize their vest) Quote
Premium Members RonBaldwin Posted March 28, 2013 Premium Members Report Posted March 28, 2013 Sorry Ron I was including the arm in that weight I knew it...just scrizewing with ya! Quote
Premium Members Janice Arthur Posted March 28, 2013 Premium Members Report Posted March 28, 2013 Jim; If you do fire up the CAD system and have something made before you find someone to help you you're better off spending the money on lottery tickets. We're all trying to tell you its the little details not your size or back that are the issue. This is a crazy device and everyone makes some wrong assumptions right away and with an hour or two of help those mistakes go away. We're all trying to save you some money and pain. The Pilot is super simple to master once you get some training. Good Luck. Janice Quote
Jim Nelson Posted April 16, 2013 Author Report Posted April 16, 2013 Just as a followup, a rolled-up T-shirt under the chestpiece made it work much, much better. Now I just need about 1000 hours of practice... 1 Quote
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