Interesting new rig

[Shawn Sutherland]

A 100mm lens is never a 240mm lens.

 

Go to the source video and look at the bottom where it says:

 

"Shot with Black Magic Cinema camera and 5D mark II, using a 100mm Canon lens from a remote controlled helicopter in combination with the Freefly MoVI MR.

100mm on the Black Magic equals to 240mm on a full frame DSLR, very interesting!!!"

 

I just took them at face value.

 

If it's a mistake, it's THIER mistake. Go correct them.

[Alan Rencher]

But you spreading their mistake like it's truth is your mistake.

[Shawn Sutherland]

But you spreading their mistake like it's truth is your mistake.

 

It's a Long lens shot done with a Movi. The point has already been made. I'm right. Get the @#!! over it!

 

What are you trying to do? Out "troll" me?

 

No seriously. Were you one of those weird fat kids with coke bottle glasses that used to pick wings off of flies, just for shits and giggles?

[Alan Rencher]

You're not right. How does a focal change without additional optics? Format size only affects field of view; it doesn't change how a lens behaves.

[Shawn Sutherland]

Look at this video again:

Eric said: "Long lens work with a Movi? Nope not gonna happen"

Wrong.

Long lenses do work on a Movi, and they already proved it.

Nobody said ANYTHING about how long the lens had to be and as far as I'm concerned, 100mm is more than enough to prove the point.

I said Movi could do long lens shots and it did. I was right.

[Eric Fletcher S.O.C.]

100mm isn't that long of a lens it's only 4 inches. Even "Sass" would agree with me

[Benjamin Treplin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJNxj1FdKuo

[Benjamin Treplin]

A more serious input.

A very interesting read, which is related to Steadicam vs. cheaper stabilized platforms.

 

http://www.wired.co.uk/magazine/archive/2013/04/start/the-disruptor

[Jerry Holway]

A small bit of math - taking the width of the BlackMagic sensor vs. the theatrical projection width of 35mm film, the "equivalent" focal length for a 100mm lens on the BM is about 132mm on a full frame. Using the diagonals is perhaps misleading as the aspect ratios are different, which might get the equivalent up to 140mm (I did not calculate). Clearly Movi's software and hardware will get better at working with longer and longer lenses as time goes on.

 

Regardless, one of the things I really like about Steadicam is the connection to the hand and mind of the operator. A case in point: when Garrett tried Tango with two axis in servos, I was less interested in the device because I lost touch with the framing. As a purely mechanical device, the current Tango has, in addition to the great sweep and boom reach, just the same feel and sensitivity as a normal Steadicam. Precision and speed and that magical connection to an individual human being.

 

Movi will have its place, and will be much improved in conjunction with a Steadicam arm or full rig, giving it better vertical and horizontal flow.

 

However, I believe the individual touch and corresponding aesthetics (and the other responsibilities of being an operator) can't be completely replaced by a set of ones and zeroes in software dedicated to keeping a rig level.

[Alan Rencher]

A more serious input.

A very interesting read, which is related to Steadicam vs. cheaper stabilized platforms.

 

http://www.wired.co.uk/magazine/archive/2013/04/start/the-disruptor

I almost feel that relates better to the Movi and its $15,000 price tag vs. The onslaught of sub $2k stabilizers.

 

Good read.

[Alec Jarnagin SOC]

Wow, you go and disappear to the desert for a week, completely off the grid, and the neighborhood goes to sh... Seriously folks, my return to "civilization" was greeted by multiple complaints about this thread and a certain individual. Since I have lots of emails, etc. to catch up on (and I'm not even home yet), I don't presently have the time to read this entire thread yet. So, this is what I'm going to do. I'm temporarily locking this thread until I can sort through it. I have issued the member in question a warning and asked him to email me his thoughts. Any more "confrontational" posts from him anywhere on this professional Forum will result in his being banned (which some members are already calling for and indeed could still happen, but I need to read through the thread).

 

Thank you all for your patience.

[Alec Jarnagin SOC]

Hello all. Thank you for your patience with this thread. I have taken the time to read through it and discuss its contents with our fellow moderators. First, we've decided that this thread's usefulness has come to an end so we will be leaving it closed. In time, when someone has ACTUALLY mounted a Movi on a Steadicam and has something factual to say, its best to start fresh with a new thread.

As for Shawn Sutherland (AKA Barry Mkokiner), he has been banned from this Forum for violating the real name policy and using multiple accounts to post from (yes, both of these names share the same IP address). Thanks all.