Mohamad Faiz Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Using the pdw 700 with the cobham wireless tx unit ..... Quite a solid combi... Been flying it with a v-mount battery on camera as it is quite power hungry and the hytron couldn't keep up with its demand if i were to power from my sled.... Using an Archer1 sled with hytron 140 battery as anything lighter than 140 equates me to fly my post almost fully extended...... Using tally sensors made by tiffen for the sled... And my trusted j7 zoom with j7 focus unit as well...... No returns the whole studio are peppered with monitors.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Jameson Johnson Posted October 14, 2013 Premium Members Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 Not live television, but live multicam corporate. I use Boxx Meridian with the OB receiver - cuts in nicely since there's less than 1 frame delay. Generally a GV LDK8000 or GV DMC1000 (discontinued) The DMC1000 is cool for GrassValley because you can have full paint control via wifi. Grass has a new compact version of the new LDX that has ethernet paint control; plug in a wifi adaptor and you're off and flying with full telemetry and tally. I have not flown with this camera yet, but I'm anxious to. http://www.grassvalley.com/products/ldx_compact Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Mike Germond SOC Posted October 14, 2013 Premium Members Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 Not live television, but live multicam corporate. I use Boxx Meridian with the OB receiver - cuts in nicely since there's less than 1 frame delay. Generally a GV LDK8000 or GV DMC1000 (discontinued) The DMC1000 is cool for GrassValley because you can have full paint control via wifi. Grass has a new compact version of the new LDX that has ethernet paint control; plug in a wifi adaptor and you're off and flying with full telemetry and tally. I have not flown with this camera yet, but I'm anxious to. http://www.grassvalley.com/products/ldx_compact Cheers Did you ever get to see a replay of the event to check the transmission and quality? I'm curious because I used the Boxx Meridian in a Miami soundstage last week and I was not impressed. The playback was riddled with digital hits. Unacceptable for Live TV IMO. We had the Rx mounted on the back of the large "5 way" paddle antenna, and it had to be pointed almost directly at the Steadicam. Even then, still digital breakup on simple little moves. I wish I would have had the time to put other kits up against it in the same environment. That has somewhat diminished my desire to rush and drop $20k on a kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Jameson Johnson Posted October 21, 2013 Premium Members Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Mike - I haven't seen the final cut, but I had a usually picky pair of director/producer watching the feed and both said they didn't see a single dropout. I was within 200' of the receiver during the show, but in our wireless tests ahead of time, I got 500+ feet from the receiver through at least 1 layer of cinder block before it started to sparkle. I did have high gain antennas on the receiver for the show that were after market, but still provided from Boxx LA. I did test with the stock 5-way antennas, 3- 2020 and 2-205, without a problem to 300 feet. Still waiting on the line cut myself. I've got the system again on a national conference for a large financial corporation in November. Are there specific things I could test or check for you? The environment will be a 2500 seat auditorium at the Minneapolis Convention Center downtown. Lots of errant wifi in the area, but outside the range of the 5.16 that the Meridian works best in. I want to put it though it's paces next summer on a few outdoor music shows too - that's a way off though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members JobScholtze Posted October 21, 2013 Premium Members Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Using the pdw 700 with the cobham wireless tx unit ..... Quite a solid combi... Been flying it with a v-mount battery on camera as it is quite power hungry and the hytron couldn't keep up with its demand if i were to power from my sled.... Using an Archer1 sled with hytron 140 battery as anything lighter than 140 equates me to fly my post almost fully extended...... Using tally sensors made by tiffen for the sled... And my trusted j7 zoom with j7 focus unit as well...... No returns the whole studio are peppered with monitors.... The PDW 700 is a ENG camera ( xdcam hd ) and not a multi camera. Using tally sensors? Eh, care to explain? Perhaps i am missing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Mike Germond SOC Posted October 21, 2013 Premium Members Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Using the pdw 700 with the cobham wireless tx unit ..... Quite a solid combi... Been flying it with a v-mount battery on camera as it is quite power hungry and the hytron couldn't keep up with its demand if i were to power from my sled.... Using an Archer1 sled with hytron 140 battery as anything lighter than 140 equates me to fly my post almost fully extended...... Using tally sensors made by tiffen for the sled... And my trusted j7 zoom with j7 focus unit as well...... No returns the whole studio are peppered with monitors.... The PDW 700 is a ENG camera ( xdcam hd ) and not a multi camera. Using tally sensors? Eh, care to explain? Perhaps i am missing something? I'm not sure how he is using it, but all Sony cameras (and maybe other brands) with the 4-pin Hirose DC out connector can take a Tally Input. The other 2 pins of that connector have a purpose too. In addition to REC trigger, you can trigger just the Tally LED's of the camera with a simple contact closure. Connector: HR10-7p-4p Pin 1: Un Reg Gound Pin 2: Rec Tally Pin 3: Rec Trigger (Open or +5V DC, Ground Active (REC)) Pin 4: Un Reg +12V But it would feel silly to connect a telemetry system TO the camera, just to put a photosensor on the Tally LED and take it back out into your sled. I don't know the Cobham system at all, but the Link systems I've used often have a Tally Out connector in addition to the signals in the RCP cable. You could simply take the Tally signal straight to your sled out of the Data return with a custom cable. Ops equipped with photosensors already may prefer the former solution tho.. It's a mess of cables and adapters so I don't know why you wouldn't just use a proper multi-cam body in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members JobScholtze Posted October 22, 2013 Premium Members Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 Cool, didnt know that re. the pdw 700 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Peter Abraham Posted October 23, 2013 Author Premium Members Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 Hi, thought I'd chime in. This is all entirely priceless information. I have no idea if my show will spend a penny to upgrade, we are still slowly working on WHY the IDX Wevi is taking hits ( firmware upgrade in place ) when others report no hits in a small xmit/ rec distance environment. Regardless of THIS outcome, please keep the information flowing. There are a lot of us out there chasing the latest, greatest, most reliable and most flexible systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Jameson Johnson Posted October 23, 2013 Premium Members Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 Peter - Is this the CW-5 or the CW-7? I've used the IDX wireless on jobs before, and have had problems with it taking hits in all environments. I've had good luck in a rehearsal, then bad for show. I've even had it break up in a corn field away from other 5Ghz RF, explain that.... If you do find a fix, I'm sure a lot of people will be very interested in the solution! Jameson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Montroni Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Hi, thought I'd chime in. This is all entirely priceless information. I have no idea if my show will spend a penny to upgrade, we are still slowly working on WHY the IDX Wevi is taking hits ( firmware upgrade in place ) when others report no hits in a small xmit/ rec distance environment. Regardless of THIS outcome, please keep the information flowing. There are a lot of us out there chasing the latest, greatest, most reliable and most flexible systems. We were using the Wevi in studio and as you said, it was perfect during blocking but the minute the camera went to air it would break up constantly. It also got progressively worse over time. We blamed alot of it on RF interference from the shear number of microphones and other gear in our grid. It doesn't help that a studio with just as much gear is a wall away... During blocking, we would have just a few bodies in studio. By the time we had SMs, talent, other camera ops and cameras around, the signal got scrambled. We had to go back to hard wire and have been waiting on a wireless solution since. At the time, we were flying a Grass Valley LDK 4000 mkII. We switched to Sony 2550 and are back to GV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohamad Faiz Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 Yes we do use the pdw700 and pdw800.... Sometimes its quite flexible to have a recorder as a rf camera.... events where you need to record something urgently and running on efp mode where the technical team is barely bare bones and rf signal isn't strong..... So it helps as a backup recorder.... Hated the hdr1500 as the camera as the its not built to hold up rf and balancing it is a nightmare..... :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkWalker Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Hi Everyone, Here is a short video of the Boxx Meridian system that Rob used on "Splash" with return video and return Prompt. Plus I will put up a second video of the Meridian being used on "The voice" UK the entire song was one steadicam shot live. If anyone would like a demo system to test out please contact me. Mark Walker www.boxxusa.com 310 963 4469 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB4rOn21vLY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBzkD0W44Sk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Rob Vuona SOC Posted November 28, 2013 Premium Members Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Hey there Mark, I didn't know you did that video, its cool. Damn I made that set up look clean LOL 1-Sony P-1 Camera 1-HD Transmitter 2-HD Receivers 1-Camera Control Receiver 1-Audio Transmitter 1-Steadicam Prompter Monitor and 1 - Emergency Spare air and it all still looked clean Thanks Mark, at least I didn't fall in the pool LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Peter Abraham Posted March 27, 2014 Author Premium Members Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Hi- so this company is advertising on the Forum page. Just to the right of what I'm typing, actually. Is it an answer to the Teradek 2000? Anyone using it? How is it? The price seems identical to the 2000. Not in the market for something like this yet, but once NAB hits, I'm guessing the latest and greatest will drive this down to $ 4K range. Rebotnix RB-2 Best to all, Peter Abraham, S.O.C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members John Stout Posted March 27, 2014 Premium Members Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 I am on an event that uses the LINK box. There are 10 RF cameras using the system over an area roughly the size of a golf course. The company that provides the system does a great job. Rarely do we see a break up. It works like cellular towers. The signal just gets passed off. I believe John Perry and other operators use this system on a smaller scale. The box is only about 1.5 lbs in weight and offers telemetry as well. Here is a couple of links to companies that offer the system for rental. It typically has a tech attached to it on a short term rental. http://www.aerialvideo.com http://www.broadcastsportsinc.com John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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