When we say "Set!"

[Eric Fletcher S.O.C.]

I've heard the call-out, "set," used interchangeably with, "frame," and I've always used it to let the AD know that frame is up, and one ready for action.

 

In a poll of 20 operators working on various shows NONE of us have ever heard "Frame" EVER

[Iain Baird]

 

I've heard the call-out, "set," used interchangeably with, "frame," and I've always used it to let the AD know that frame is up, and one ready for action.

 

In a poll of 20 operators working on various shows NONE of us have ever heard "Frame" EVER

 

 

Could be a regional thing. I learned "Frame" from a Toronto Operator 15 years ago and used it to indicate I was ready for at least 10 years. I've since been working more abroad and switched to using "Set" as that's what the local operators are using and the AD's are more familiar with

 

IB

[Alec Jarnagin SOC]

I was on a UK Production once here in the states and the DP (DOP cause a Brit) used "Frame" (they also said "turn over" for "roll camera" those crazy buggers). Thought I've heard it once or twice on other occasions as well, but "Set" is certainly the norm here in the states.

[Jerry Holway]

Work outside of your own language culture, or country and you learn to use whatever that crew wants you to use. I've had to learn Italian, French (and Canadian French), different versions of Spanish, just to get along and fit in. Along the way, one learns different approaches to work. Sometimes it's a headache, sometimes it's liberating or educating. Regardless, it's great to get out there and experience all the different cultures. There is never one "set" way to do anything.

[chris fawcett]

 

 

I've heard the call-out, "set," used interchangeably with, "frame," and I've always used it to let the AD know that frame is up, and one ready for action.

 

In a poll of 20 operators working on various shows NONE of us have ever heard "Frame" EVER

Could be a regional thing. I learned "Frame" from a Toronto Operator 15 years ago and used it to indicate I was ready for at least 10 years. I've since been working more abroad and switched to using "Set" as that's what the local operators are using and the AD's are more familiar with

 

IB

It probably is. I hear them used interchangeably, and it's not something I get all allcapsy about.

 

Chris

[Alan Rencher]

I've worked with a DP by the name of Jeremy Benning, and he says "frame." He's also a Steadicam operator, and he's a member here. Quit trolling, Eric.

[Jens Piotrowski SOC]

While "frame" might be used In other English speaking markets, this thread is about when "we" use it. Every country has obviously their own on-set language.

 

It just would be nice if you could sometimes show a little respect to other operators who are doing this professionally longer than you are old.

[Alan Rencher]

While "frame" might be used In other English speaking markets, this thread is about when "we" use it. Every country has obviously their own on-set language.

It just would be nice if you could sometimes show a little respect to other operators who are doing this professionally longer than you are old.

 

Except when the DP and director are both Canadian... and this is an international forum, not just American. Also, when people are called out on this forum, I've noticed that the common way to defend oneself is to hide behind some arbitrary technicality. Eric was being a bully, and you always egg him on.

 

Why don't you show some common courtesy? Respect is earned, and working for any period of time isn't a free-pass for not showing respect or courtesy to others.

[Thomas English]

Granted that a poll of 20 top LA operators is no actual survey of the giant international English speaking film industry but it is still interesting. Ironically Alec, I started going through a phase of using "frame" when I was B-Camera operating for your DoP, the Lovely Milton Kam. I thought at the time it was a New York thing and I readily adopted it because thats what the DoP was doing and he is a very cool guy.

 

Lets not get too bogged down in semantics. Last night I was calling "BoooM!" on a playstation advert because I had to time the track in with when the action happened.

 

Do you guys wait for A-Camera to call set before you call set on B-Camera or do you just call it when you want ahead of A-Camera?

[chris fawcett]

While "frame" might be used In other English speaking markets, this thread is about when "we" use it. Every country has obviously their own on-set language.

It just would be nice if you could sometimes show a little respect to other operators who are doing this professionally longer than you are old.

That's a definition of the word 'we' that I haven't heard before.

 

Chris

[Alec Jarnagin SOC]

A few things….,

 

I'm all "set" on the off-topic bashing here, thank you very much. Indeed, respect IS earned.

Thomas, I don't think I even realized Milton used that term…. Damn fine fella.

 

Yes, "B" Camera should wait until "A" Camera calls it, IMHO.

[Jens Piotrowski SOC]

Chris,

 

The "we" is in reference to the "we" in the thread title and therefore defines itself...

 

 

Cheers

 

 

While "frame" might be used In other English speaking markets, this thread is about when "we" use it. Every country has obviously their own on-set language.

It just would be nice if you could sometimes show a little respect to other operators who are doing this professionally longer than you are old.

That's a definition of the word 'we' that I haven't heard before.

 

Chris

[Jerry Holway]

I think "we" refers to the 6,000 plus of "us" that are registered here, plus anyone that visits the site.

 

And if we all deferred to the old and experienced without question, we'd all still be cursing going to low mode with that damn J bracket.

 

Wisdom, insight, and curious customs and beliefs come from all quarters, including LA, but not exclusively, thank our lucky stars. Garrett comes from Philly, remember?

[Ken Nguyen]

Interesting subject!

I learned "set" from school.

And. I've been using it since then for 99% of my Steadicam and handheld work.

The 1% is sign language. AD asks "camera ready" I just nod or wink.

 

Frankly, this is the first time I know "frame" by reading this post.

 

But, whatever word or signal that I use, I tell or ask the director and AD before the shoot.

[Brad Hruboska]

I agree that this a growing problem of non adherance to procedure where the director calls action before the slate. IN many instances i know they are distracted with other production isues, especially if they are also the producer, and it seems that AD's are not as willing to reinforce the proceedure as they once were.