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Charles Papert

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Smart idea Peter. Most of my issues seem to come from the part of the move where I had to spin around in place while the actress "danced" with the Steadicam--it always left me a little disoriented for the next cue, but indeed an overhead bulb may have done the trick. I now have an even greater appreciation for the scenes in Titanic where Jimmy M. did the same thing during the dance sequence in steerage--but I'm sure they went around many more times than I did!

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If anyone is interested in seeing the results of all this, it's the opening of the HBO series "Big Love" which shows on Sunday nights and repeats through the week. It's another beautiful HBO title sequence (interesting that as the network shows move to shorter and shorter opens, HBO goes the other direction). I could have been more delighted with the choice of takes for the crane stepoff at the beginning, wasn't my best, but what can you do.

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Oh jeez you guys, it's not about me! But this pic will at least answer the question about the camera--it was a 435 (and since Bill Paxton and Jeanne Tripplehorn got their faces in the first shot, now Chloe Sevigny and Ginnifer Goodwin get their chance too). As seen here we needed to open up the circle a bit to get more distance to the actors and Paxton came up with the brilliant idea of separating them with a length of rope. Coming off directing "The Greatest Game Ever Played" last year, looks like he can't quite resist taking a peek at my monitor during the shot!

 

I don't remember how many takes we did of this shot but there were about 10 of the crane step-offs.post-79-1143666645_thumb.jpg

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I've always been a big fan of the HBO title sequences - and the shows too, of course. I'm just starting to warm up to "Big Love" now. I had no idea it was you on the camera, Charles. I think I remember checking the credits for the Steadicam Op and it wasn't anyone I recognized. Did you work on any of the episodes?

 

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As an avid hockey fan and player I've thought about this quite a bit and have been very tempted to try it but I haven't because I think it's both a mistake and unnecessary.

 

I can only imagine that the momentum of the sled will be a completely different experience on skates. All you need is one crash to lead to equipment carnage and bodily harm and I don't think having a spotter would do much good.

 

I've shot handheld on skates and it may as well be a Steadicam so why bother with all the extra gear and potential for disaster? Not to mention you're not fighting the pendulum effect and can manipulate the camera much easier.

 

But if anybody has done this, I'd sure like to hear about it.

 

Dan "Not In My 5-Hole!" Coplan

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As an avid hockey fan and player I've thought about this quite a bit and have been very tempted to try it but I haven't because I think it's both a mistake and unnecessary.

 

I can only imagine that the momentum of the sled will be a completely different experience on skates. All you need is one crash to lead to equipment carnage and bodily harm and I don't think having a spotter would do much good.

 

I've shot handheld on skates and it may as well be a Steadicam so why bother with all the extra gear and potential for disaster? Not to mention you're not fighting the pendulum effect and can manipulate the camera much easier.

 

But if anybody has done this, I'd sure like to hear about it.

 

Dan "Not In My 5-Hole!" Coplan

hello iceaficionados,

i think i saw joerg widmer a few years ago in a rental house in berlin.on roller blades,in his rig!

he did pretty good as i remember.seems to be quite similar to ice skates.but i don`t know if he ever did

this on a job,although i know he did same strange setups,like riding on a horses back shooting steadicam etc.

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I am wondering if anybody has experience operating the Steadicam on Ice Skates.

 

 

I have operated on ice but that was using crampons and I know that Garrett is fond of javelin shoes. Don't know if I'd like to be operating on skates for all the reason's that Dan mentioned

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jens- i used to play hockey, strangely for 'die Haie' in cologne, and i wouldn't think about skating with my rig on. i have done some roller blading with my rig and that's doable, but not recommended. rollerblades seem much more forgiving for some reason. i think handheld or with a doggy cam is the way to go for ice. on ice or pavement, get a 'puller' if you can. someone who skates really well and that you trust should do all the pulling or pushing to maintain speed and let you do the operating. that works the best. also, wear a helmet. good luck.

 

geoff 'i'm only missing a few teeth' shotz

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