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Charles Papert

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Hi folks... I'm wondering if anyone has tried operating a steadicam on Skates. I've done is handheld before and also with an Easyrig, I'm just wondering if anyone has tried to do Steadicam with a pair of Skates on? If anyone has or has any insite into this pls let me know, or any other ways.

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Patrick

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Hi Patrick,

 

Try to get a hold of Francois Perrier , Francois's web site. We shot "Maurice Richard" feature film about the hockey legend and Francois did some amazing stuff on skates with the 235... I would have not done it but Fancois did and it was impressive. great framing , on skates!!!!

 

 

Cheers.

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2 Weeks ago i did the final of Dancing on Ice. Not on skates but i used golf shoes. With steel pins. It worked just fine and was able to do the 3 minuts openings shot live on ice. Scary stuff :P

I have a clip somewhere of me walking on ice, let me ask my assistent, he has it on his cell phone, go figure ;)

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<_< Some years ago, I tryied whit skys...and the result was bad..bad..and painful.... The gravity center of your body changes...and you get fall.... :angry:

I did Ice Princess for disney and we used a small metal platform 3'x3' that i stood on with my old 3a and was pushed by two strong skaters. We also built an electric crane base with studded tires it held a gf-6 crane with a stabilized head crane op, driver and myself. Grips Chris Dean and John Billings built the rigs in toronto

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High speed work is best done with a rig that wavebuddy (real name please buddy!) describes; walking speed is done with golf shoes as Job describes or strap-on metal cleat dealies like the Stabilicers (I had a thread on this a year or two ago here)--the advantage of which is that you get to use them on your own shoes/sneakers/boots etc, which will likely give you better support than dedicated golf shoes.

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We did the opening sequence for the NHL's All Star Game when it was in Toronto a couple of years ago and Keith Murphy had a blast chasing pucks & players all over a frozen pond. You'll have to ask him how he felt about it, but he does come from a hockey playing background and seemed comfortable with the rig and skates.

 

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As a guy who has played hockey since 4 years old, I think wearing skates while operating Steadicam is a dangerous proposition. I am as comfortable on skates as anybody, and I have turned down the request several times. For slow moving shots on ice, the proper footwear can make it safe and successful. For quick shots, I have operated handheld with a small camera body. Once up to speed on the skates, I go into a glide mode. The shots are very smooth, and I an "dolly" left or right by simply turning on skates. Imagine crashing on skates in the rig! That is scary.

 

Years back I did a Red Wings promo spot with The Captain, Steve Yzerman. They wanted to track in behind Steve going full speed towards the goalie. Handheld holding the camera by the handle, I would do a full lap to gain speed. I came around the opposite goal with Yzerman on my tail. I would start the glide around the first blue line, & by the red line, Yzerman was in position in front of me. Being a hockey player & huge Red Wing fan, it was about the funnest shoot ever. I was happy to leave the rig at home. I asked Steve if I should slow down a bit so he could catch up to me :) Luckily, The Captain had a sense of humor, he must have been going less than 1/2 speed.

 

Regarding footwear for ice work, Neos has some interesting over boots. Check them out on line. I have ordered a pair of normal over boots (not the ice grabbers) for cold weather work. You can wear normal trail runners, and the over boots are lightweight, and super warm. Just pop them off for the shot, then pop them back on to stay warm. Very nice.

 

Stay safe,

 

Mark Karavite

A Camera / Steadicam Operator

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hey job, man you have some noisey golf shoes!

is that noise ok? i kept waiting for u you to disappear...!

 

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m

At the show... The sound is high... The noise of the shoes are imperceptible...The Job´s idea are good.... What are you speaking about?.... <_< <_< <_<

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hey job, man you have some noisey golf shoes!

is that noise ok? i kept waiting for u you to disappear...!

 

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m

 

Hell yes, there noisey. But in the show with loud music and fireworks you dont hear a thing. Btw, this was not the reharsel yet. And not the show yet. This was the try out in the morning, so no need to disappear

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