Guest Jeremy Hawkins Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 Hi Jeremy, I don't want to be a stickler... we are following the thread, so you don't need to quote everything. We read the previous post, just answer, quoting your own quotes... just to write a line? Please don't quote unless there are at least 10 posts between the question and the answer. It makes reading the post much easier. Thank you. Back to LCD's... Erwin I thought that was getting irritating too, but I wanst sure how to stop. I am hitting "reply" as oppose to "quote" and I thought that would work, but aparently not. What am I missing here? Embarrasing, this, as I am quite computer literate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Alec Jarnagin SOC Posted July 29, 2006 Moderators Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 Jermey, Scroll all the way to the bottom of the thread (good idea because this way you see what everyone has written before responding) and then hit "add reply." Hey, what are your thoughts regarding a small HD-SDI booster? (again see my last post). Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeremy Hawkins Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 I think the HD-SDI booster is a GREAT idea and am running it by my tech people now. Sorry I didn't mention that before, but I have been all wrapped up in the new product thingie. As to the multi-page memory you mentioned, that should be an easy one to accomidate as the units have on-board hard drives already. I would think, however, that hard drives would be less suited than RAM or flash memory for that purpose, but there is certainly a solution there. Great tips all. Looks like I am not the only "Solutionist" around! -Jeremy Re: Threading etiquite. Hey LOOKIE! I DID IT! Thanks -Jeremy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Mikko Wilson Posted July 29, 2006 Premium Members Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 Is this guy for real? :blink: I mean some of those 'specs' are ridiculous! "HDTV D1 Broadcast Studio Quality" .... "[Divx, WMV, QT]" - definatly not 'broadcast studio quality', and D1 is a SD not HD standard. What are those "video" inputs? Composite? Component? SDI? What is this "ultra high resolution", I dont' see any HD inputs mentioned, and a screen resolution of 720 x 480 is not HD. Ready to ship in a week.. and all with self powered TiVo and theater quality surround sound? :lol: give me a break. Jeremy, I'm sorry if you are serious, and I don't mean to insult, but "Rocket ship data transfer"? WTF? :huh: - Mikko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeremy Hawkins Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 Is this guy for real? :blink: I mean some of those 'specs' are ridiculous! "HDTV D1 Broadcast Studio Quality" .... "[Divx, WMV, QT]" - definatly not 'broadcast studio quality', and D1 is a SD not HD standard. What are those "video" inputs? Composite? Component? SDI? What is this "ultra high resolution", I dont' see any HD inputs mentioned, and a screen resolution of 720 x 480 is not HD. Ready to ship in a week.. and all with self powered TiVo and theater quality surround sound? :lol: give me a break. Jeremy, I'm sorry if you are serious, and I don't mean to insult, but "Rocket ship data transfer"? WTF? :huh: - Mikko First off, you will have to bear with me as I am still assembling the tech data and am just posting what I am given as fast as I can. As to the surround sound, you will noitice that the unit comes with both onboard speakers AND an an audio output jack for delivering the suround sound. As to the resolution, we are talking about a 7' screen here. Most that call themselves High Resolution at that size are 480 X 234. 1024 X 720 is standard for HD, but for that we are talking about a 42'in plasma screen, not a 7" display, so I am comfortable with the wording there. As to the campy language, I gotta agree with you there, but that is why it didn't make the website. I am happy to hear that you are skeptical, as that is a VERY GOOD response from a marketing standpoint (provided that you can provide what people are skeptical of). As to the rest, I will follow up and get better definitions on the points you bring up. Now, provided that what I am claiming about it is TRUE, would you want one? That is the important question. (however, I must admit that "rocket ship data transfer" is actually unavailable at this time, but we ARE using the more efficient USB 2.0 standard) -Jeremy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeremy Hawkins Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Is this the limo connector that you would want: http://www.lemousa.com/browse.do?page=5&am...p;pbSubmit.y=12 -Jeremy www.Avwirelesstech.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Eric Fletcher S.O.C. Posted July 30, 2006 Premium Members Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Okay, read the specs of the monitor and I'm puzzled. You say HD yet it's SD Rez Where is the SDI Input for the HD? Why do I need "Surround Sound"? How bright is it? and the answer "It's pretty bright" doesn't count I want to see a spec I don't care that has a built in battery, I don't want that. Here's what I need. Pro Standard Lemo input HD-SDI Input Stiff Case and Mount Built-in Frameline Generator 1400+Nits Termination switch or auto-terminating Scan flip switches for both Horizontal and Vertical Peaking control Image Zoom Horizontal and vertical size adjustments Waterproof Inshort build me a TB-6 that does HD and is a LCD. When you build that give me a ring and I'd love to test it out on my show. I'm shooting with a Viper so it's easy for me to A/B the HDSDI and the SD inputs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeremy Hawkins Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Okay, read the specs of the monitor and I'm puzzled. You say HD yet it's SD Rez Where is the SDI Input for the HD? Why do I need "Surround Sound"? How bright is it? and the answer "It's pretty bright" doesn't count I want to see a spec I don't care that has a built in battery, I don't want that. Here's what I need. Pro Standard Lemo input HD-SDI Input Stiff Case and Mount Built-in Frameline Generator 1400+Nits Termination switch or auto-terminating Scan flip switches for both Horizontal and Vertical Peaking control Image Zoom Horizontal and vertical size adjustments Waterproof Inshort build me a TB-6 that does HD and is a LCD. When you build that give me a ring and I'd love to test it out on my show. I'm shooting with a Viper so it's easy for me to A/B the HDSDI and the SD inputs. I am waiting on the exact nits spec, but my tentative info is 1450. The frameline gen can be done as can the lemo input, the zoom and size adjustments. The additional things already on the unit are just that, things that were already included. Remember, I was trying with this first offering to provide an alternative that could fit the needs of both the steadycam industry and the LCD market as a whole. More specialized units can be made without significant difficulties. I am trying to help here. There is vast room for improvement in this area as the current models are grossly overpriced (3800 for a green CRT unit!) and we are working to fix that by providing cutting-edge LCD tech at a cost that is radically lower than that available. The specs for the monitor on the site, while not quite ideal for specific steadycam application, already vastly surpass the tb-6 as far as resolution and weight goes. I find it strange that, after less than one week of development, people seem to be so ready to reject the whole system. The unit I presented is a PLATFORM to build more specific units for the steadycam community on and I presented it as exactly that from the beginning. Are we all in agreement that this is NOT a good starting point? If we are, then show me another, but I don't think that there really is anything else that can compare with the LTPS screen. No one would blink if a steadycam operator dropped 3800 on a marell, and the unit on my site beats those quite significantly. I am having trouble understanding the resistance I am suddenly getting when I have done what you have requested and more, for far less cost. Don't get me wrong, I am still pressing forward, but, lighten up guys! It's only been a week! BTW: There are some visuals up on the site, if anyone wants to see. Specs are being adjusted to better fit the technical levels of the steadycam people. Better pics are being processed too. Remember, it IS a work in progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Eric Fletcher S.O.C. Posted July 30, 2006 Premium Members Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 I am waiting on the exact nits spec, but my tentative info is 1450. The frameline gen can be done as can the lemo input, the zoom and size adjustments. <Snip> steadycam industry <Snip> The specs for the monitor on the site, while not quite ideal for specific steadycam application, already vastly surpass the tb-6 as far as resolution and weight goes. <Snip> Don't get me wrong, I am still pressing forward, but, lighten up guys! It's only been a week! Dude, First off it's STEADICAM Just like the name of the forum. The rez you are claiming is not higher than the TB-6 and the TB-6 can very easily be seen outside. The TB-6 and the Pro Monitor's are THE benchmarks not the marrell. The Weight of the monitor is also a very important part of the system. If the monitor is too light it creates all sorts of problems. If you want build a platform that you are going to build on then it needs these basic specs: Pro Standard Lemo input HD-SDI Input Stiff Case and Mount Built-in Frameline Generator 1400+Nits Termination switch or auto-terminating Scan flip switches for both Horizontal and Vertical Peaking control Image Zoom Horizontal and vertical size adjustments Waterproof Without those minimum specs It's not a good Steadicam Monitor. And yes we know that you have been "Working" on this for a week. What I see tonight is a Rebadge job, you are catalog picking and presenting it to us. (Hence the "Surround Sound" and other none steadicam items) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeremy Hawkins Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 I looked up the specs before claiming that mine was higher. Perhaps my source was wrong, but arn't we STILL talking of a green screen CRT? These things could not cost the company more that $100 per unit to make, how much are you buying them for? I am aware that the LCD's can be important in the balance of a steadtcam, but is having an overpriced monitor really the best way to get that wieght? As to the rest, I presented a product that we already had in development as a base unit to adjust to the needs of the steadycam community. If you do not wish for me to do that, that is fine, but my perception was that we were all doing quite well in comming up with a solution that meets the needs of operators, and even having fun doing so. I saw a need that I thought I could fill and I enlisted your help to do so. It seemed that this was the best way to fill that need; by asking those who use the units to guide me. This somehow seems to have generated a sudden resentment. Those who want me to cease development, please chime in. I do not have a problem doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Peter Milanov Posted July 30, 2006 Premium Members Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Jeremy, the problem here is that what you seem to offer us is a consumer product, what we need is a professional product. There are lots of consumer level lcd monitors for very little money. As for the specs, I have a very hard time believing the 1450 NITS on that type of product. By the way, if you can make a TB-6 type of monitor for $100, count me in! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Peter Milanov Posted July 30, 2006 Premium Members Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Now back to topic! Browsing the boland homepage I came across this 6.5 Inch monitor Very nice specs and seems to accept about any type of input signal imaginable. Has anybody had the chance to see it first hand yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeremy Hawkins Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Jeremy, the problem here is that what you seem to offer us is a consumer product, what we need is a professional product. There are lots of consumer level lcd monitors for very little money. As for the specs, I have a very hard time believing the 1450 NITS on that type of product. By the way, if you can make a TB-6 type of monitor for $100, count me in! :lol: My plan was to take a consumer product and adjust it to the specs needed for a professional one. This was, aparently quite a distressful method for many people. As to the TB-6, it REALLY could be made for that (and it is by its current makers). CRT's are more of a disposal problem then a product since the introduction of flat-screens and lcd's and are therefore, to say the least, cheap. One's that are greenscreen are even more so as that technology is 50 years old. The additional features offered are by them are not difficult to add afterward. Now, as to the boland monitor: THAT looks like what you have been searching for in a monitor. -Jeremy Hawkins www.Avwirelesstech.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Eric Fletcher S.O.C. Posted July 30, 2006 Premium Members Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 That Borland looks nice, I've contacted them to see if I can get a demo to try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Eric Fletcher S.O.C. Posted July 30, 2006 Premium Members Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 My plan was to take a consumer product and adjust it to the specs needed for a professional one. This was, aparently quite a distressful method for many people. There is a problem when you do that. First off is ruggedness and reliability. Most consumers products are not designed to deal with the day to day use that it would see in a production environment. To build gear for our industry you need to start off with something that is initially Mil Spec ruggedness with Avionics quality. You are not the first to try to tackle this sort of project. Many have tried and faild simply because they didn't understand the reality of what exactly we need. As to the TB-6, it REALLY could be made for that (and it is by its current makers). CRT's are more of a disposal problem then a product since the introduction of flat-screens and lcd's and are therefore, to say the least, cheap. One's that are greenscreen are even more so as that technology is 50 years old. The additional features offered are by them are not difficult to add afterward. No, no it can't. if it can BUILD IT Schotz doesn't blow bottles for next to nothing especially on a limited run on a non standard spec. Now, as to the boland monitor: THAT looks like what you have been searching for in a monitor. So build a better cheaper version of that. Seriously I think you better need to understand what Steadicam operators are looking for and needing. What I don't need is something that is going to fall apart of give me trouble on set Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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