Brian D. Goff Posted July 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Hey Brian, I was thinking more of a pully system like on some budget jibs could be a practical solution and would have zero swing. In practice i'm sure it's not this simple i'm just thinking out load really. Tilting with a remote just seems like it could leave quite a bit of room for error, but then again maybe just something else to master. -matt Matt I don't think a pully system will work, because you would need to have the one end some were on the gimbal - thats not good. But most of all I think you would loose the ability to be able to tilt the camera - and this is a realy cool thing to do, even if you don't go Hi/low in one shot. Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Burton Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Indeed Brain I see your point and it is a good one. I think the perfect system would have auto leveling with a manual overide similar to the AR but without the canter axis. Then where talking big budget and it's not so fun anymore. What price point are you heading for the 360 ? -matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D. Goff Posted July 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 What price point are you heading for the 360 ? -matt Approx. USD 3500.- Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Burton Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 What price point are you heading for the 360 ? -matt Approx. USD 3500.- Brian Wow nice ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members mark morgan Posted July 12, 2007 Premium Members Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 nice price what is the weight of the unit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D. Goff Posted July 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 nice pricewhat is the weight of the unit The weight of the proto type was 2 kg (4-5 lb). The final device sould be a bit less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hughes Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 nice pricewhat is the weight of the unit The weight of the proto type was 2 kg (4-5 lb). The final device sould be a bit less. Have you checked out the value of the Red Sled? Awesome value. Brian I hope you know someone with an efficient machine shop you can tool up quickly you could be quite busy soon. You guys can keep the glidecam I'd rather something Swiss if I were in the market, this guy makes some serious quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Press Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 I?m still using and abusing the AS Action cam I bought 10 years ago and aside from having to straiten a couple of screws a camera assist bent and sewing a rip in the harness it is still rocking along fine? almost too fine as I have no real excuse to by a new rig? I want a red rig :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members markdeblok Posted July 14, 2007 Premium Members Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 Brian, looks nice ! waht weight/camera can it handle ?? mark de blok nsc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D. Goff Posted July 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 Brian, looks nice ! waht weight/camera can it handle ?? mark de blok nsc Any camera your arm/sled can handle. Must add approx 2 kg for the 360 Xtreme and most likely an extra batterie as counterweight on the sled. Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members RobVanGelder Posted July 15, 2007 Premium Members Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 Brian, I think it is interesting but have a question about the mounting on "any" rig. I know that many rigs have the "standard" IIIa/EFP connection with 4 screws, not too big at all. (M4 or close to that, if I am not mistaken) Extending the cameraplate position with your contraption might put serious stress on these relatively small screws. The systems out there were always designed in such a way that the weight is not too high above the gimbal, keeping the distance and therefore the forces "low". Personally I would be looking very carefully at this, I know ,unfortunately by experience, that this connection, from post to camera platform, is not always the strongest in the system....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D. Goff Posted July 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 Brian, I think it is interesting but have a question about the mounting on "any" rig. I know that many rigs have the "standard" IIIa/EFP connection with 4 screws, not too big at all. (M4 or close to that, if I am not mistaken) Extending the cameraplate position with your contraption might put serious stress on these relatively small screws. The systems out there were always designed in such a way that the weight is not too high above the gimbal, keeping the distance and therefore the forces "low". Personally I would be looking very carefully at this, I know ,unfortunately by experience, that this connection, from post to camera platform, is not always the strongest in the system....... Rob Your absolutly right. The 360 Xtreme will fit on most Rigs, but as for the EFP I would not advise an operator to but anything heavier than say a light weight HDCam, 16mm, 235, HDV's or RED on it. The 360 Xtreme was of course created with the new Actioncam in mind, our Rig has a very strong connection between camera platform and post, so even Imax would'nt be a problem. Cheers Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members JobScholtze Posted July 15, 2007 Premium Members Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 i dont think its gonna work the way you guys made it right now. Its almost impossible when working with a closer lens to use this device. Its gonna be VERY hard to find the SAME speed when rolling over the sled. Some point the sled will go faster or slower, and you need to compensate that. Even with the wide angle lens it already shows in your footage. It would work if you came up with some sort of automatic sensor thingy so you keep your head and hands free for other shots. But hey, thats just my opinion. Are you guys at the IBC this year? I would love to try it out. Lets see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Eric Fletcher S.O.C. Posted July 15, 2007 Premium Members Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 i dont think its gonna work the way you guys made it right now. Another company and some very smart people tried something like this, it didn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Jens Piotrowski SOC Posted July 15, 2007 Premium Members Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 Hello, judging from the test footage, there is a long difficult road ahead. I can only say one word. "Backpan" or in this case "Backtilt". link Good Luck. Jens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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