jay kilroy

Is the room ours for a certain period of time? How does it work? I was at the get together last year, no where near 50 people. If that's the case I don't think we have much to worry about? There must be something to this, correct? It sounds like a very impressive spread planned, Mike will we be in our own room for this spread?

The original post seemd like we needed to all fit at one table, is this the case? I hope this works out. It seems as though Mike and his wife have done a lot of planning and it shouldn't go to waste. If there is room, I would like to RSVP for myself.

jay

It seems to me that we should be able to find a place to get together after the Expo. I will staffing the Tiffen Booth, so I won't be able to make the picnic. I am sure Jerry, Garrett, Frank and Kyle will be pretty busy during as well. Although I shouldn't speak for them. Maybe we can find a place that doesn't need reservations??? Last year was a bit crowded but I thought it was great moving from table to table and group to group and just chatting and getting my drink on. I don't know this whole thing has kind of gotten a little sour, no?

I that case I'm inviting Trinity Fillsen! I need to buy some meds. :lol:

 

I should apologize to everyone for originally posting the invitation on this open public forum. sorry

 

"The Times they are a chaning"

who sang that song?

Don't apologize, it should be an open invitation to ALL ops! Erwin is right this whole thing is heading in a terrible "elitist" direction. I had a great time last year meeting everybody that was "new" to me. I was hoping to meet some "new" friends this year. I have been operating for over eight years and just learned something "new" at the last workshop, does that mean I can't come to Gladstones? This is a f***ing joke!

Hello all, over the past couple days after talking to David Grove, Dan Kneece and

my wife, we decided we need to have some limits on how many people come.

Gladstones of course, would like to know for staffing concerns.

 

These Steadicam Operators get togethers started back in 2000 (if I remember correctly)

with just a handful of us operators, I think it was about 8-10 of us, since then it has grown to become huge amounts of people including assistants, grips, electrics, newbies, and aspiring operators as well.

 

But sadly due to limited space and accomodations at the restaurant, we need to get control of

how many and who come. These get togethers and meetings are intended to get STEADICAM OPERATORS and manufacturers together from time to time so we can talk and enjoy each others company since we rarely get to work or see each other.

 

Therefore, again, due to space availability we are asking that ONLY the following attend:

1. Experienced full-time working steadicam operators

2. Manufacturers of steadicam gear or parts for use with the steadicam

 

Please do not invite your assistants, friends, and other crew members you see at Cinegear to Gladstones.

We just don't have the room for a hundred people to show up.

We're really sorry to have to say this, but again, if you are an aspiring operator (but currently working as an assistant, grip, electric, boom operator, PA, etc) or have recently bought a rig but still don't work as a full time steadicam operator, we ask that you meet and mingle with all the

other operators AT Cinegear.

 

Again, we're all really sorry about that, maybe the aspiring, wannabe, and newbie operator crowd

can organize another post-Cinegear get together at another facility.

 

Thanks for understanding. Please don't flame me for this, several people consulted and we all agreed

and I'm trying to be as diplomatic about it as possible.

 

For a more accurate head count to give the restaurant and to have a list of names as to who is

coming to Gladstone's and meets the above 2 criteria, please RSVP here so I can give Gladstone's (my wife)

a more accurate number of how many to expect.

If you are unsure if you'll be able to make it, give us a % of the chance you'll be there.

Thanks, I'll start below.

 

 

 

Michael Stumpf

I'll be attending

Are you serious?

Thanks guys.

The day after an actual, in-person meeting of Eric Fletcher and Phil Rhodes at the Tiffen reception at NAB, I noticed this gent patrolling the convention floor. Probably a wise idea. Looks like he was packing some serious heat. Or perhaps a serious heating pad.

 

With the SOA being a non-profit organization we have to take what we can get these days!!

If there are any East Coast Guys interested, we will mostly likely have the G-70 arm at the May workshop. HOPEFULLY we can have a new rig too, I'll speak with Frank. Anyway if anyone wants to come out a join us at the workshop one day get in touch with me. The students love to have ops come out and share war stories and knowledge. Give me a call or email and we can try and coordinate a day to have you join us. We can't take anytime from the students but as some of you know there is always some freetime to get in a rig. Not too mention it would just be nice to say hello.

jay kilroy

jkilroy@steadicam-ops.com

215-919-4636

Gordon,

Do you remember the IIIA I had at your workshop? It had the same problem. Eric and Erwin are right, your trippler is bad and when I resereched it, there weren't a lot of those around. There is a little red/orange knob connected to the board at the base of the tube. You can adjust the monitor's picture with that knob. It's only a quick fix. It seemed to work best on mine when I would let it get completely out of focus. Then I would adjust it and it would stay good for a while but eventually drift out. But like what has been said to you in these other posts, start thinking about a new monitor.

jay

In addition to Erwin and Alec, I'd like to suggest Jamie Silverstein and Charles Papert. Both of them always seem to have level heads and don't get involved in the bickering.

I think three or four moderators is the minimum considering the odd schedules we all keep. There may be times when a moderator can't check the forum for weeks at a time if he/she is working.

I agree with Brad, both excellent choices.

Erwin,

Who would you like to do this with?

jay

I would like to nominate Alec, he is very down to earth and even keeled. I think he would be an excellent choice. If you were looking for more than one I would also cast another vote for Erwin.

jay kilroy

Bravo Alec, Bravo! This is exactly what this forum was intended for. Intelligent, informed and understandable responses on all topics. We all should try this approach.

Jay

When I was in Hollywood/LA for spring break, I got to fly a high-end rig, with a 35mm camera. Very sweet.

 

I'm anxious to compare when my V25 arrives. Will there be differences? Of course. Without a doubt.

 

I definitly understand the mentality of those who are strongly pro-'Steadicam'. They ARE the biggest, the BEST, the ORIGINAL, and that is my GOAL.

 

The budget just wasn't there for me, and for many others who want to go into Steadicam Operation, thus my purchase of the V25.

 

Owning a 'real' rig will come with time, training, lots of work, and a hefty invoice, but that is what I'm working towards.

 

 

And thus lies the issue.

 

This was supposed to be a forum of Professionals, Discussing Professional gear and Professional issues. Then Tim started to advertise which led to the google search-ability. At first it was fine, then the enthusiast started to get bold and really increase the Noise, That's when I asked Tim for the Steadi-Newbies forum. A place where newbies could respectfully ask questions and get answers. A place where someone could ask questions about the gear and the art that they got to see when they were on "Spring Break"

 

In the mean time most of Us that do this for a living, the ones that really started this place back in the AOL Message board days, started to leave. Departures were fueled by people with little to no experience giving advice, Bad advice, clueless and ill-informed advice (We just had one of those situations happen again) and then those advice givers attempting to argue with those of us that do this for real, with the big rigs on the big shows.

 

I stopped by the set of a show that I dayplayed on covering for their normal operator and guess what he brought up? This issue and he cited it as why he doesn't post anymore. We are busy enough working, yet we make the time to come here and try to give advice but then we get people arguing with us and telling us that we are "Bashing gear" gear that they claim can provide the same results that the "Big Rigs" can. Operators that don't really have the experience to understand what they are feeling and why things happen.

 

Then you want us to educate you...

 

We've been trying. Y'all just aren't listening

Well said Eric, hopefully you won't be one of the ones who stops posting.

Is there ANY way we can get this guy banned? Like Eric pointed out, we have been nothing but nice to this guy in the past. His welcome has been worn out, as funny as this second page of the thread has been, it is 10 minutes of my life I will never get back. Please Leigh, do us all a favor and silently remove yourself from our community.

Jay "I tried so hard to resist" Kilroy

Awesome,

Thank you much. Janice is a good friend on mine too, thanks for passing along us to her.

Jay

Hi,

 

If you go up a level in the website : http://www.tracilords.com/lords/

You can see in other pictures the guys helping her wearing the Rig, maybe someone here will recognise them...

 

K.

The guy in the black shirt is Leon Sanginiti, he is an 1st AC here in Philly/NYC. The guy in the blue shirt looks very familiar, can't place him though.

jay

No worries, as shocked as I was to see useful parts being offered for free, I knew I would be too late. Kudos to you for the gesture.

jk

Mark,

The SOA would gladly take a donation of spare vest parts for the workshop tool kit. This is exactly what we need when stuff breaks at a workshop.

Jay Kilroy

"not sure who she is but her operating hand is all wrong..."

 

Old habits die hard and I think she is used to the full handed grip on posts of that diameter!

Alec I just laughed so hard at your comment my morning coffee nearly came out my nose. Made my morning.

jk

Oliver,

You're absolutely right. I work with triax all the time and that is exactly how I balance. Do you have to attach the triax right to the camera or do you have a nice piece of thin flexible cable you can use? I have the Tiffen triax set up with my rig. The triax comes into my adaptor on my vest and then from my vest to the camera I have a great lightweight, very thin and flexible cable I use. Shoot me an email and I can send you pictures of my set up.

jay kilroy

jkilroy@steadicam-ops.com

We used to have a seperate forum on the SOA site and we decided to combined the two so we could bring EVERYONE in the industry together.

 

jay kilroy

VP, SOA

 

 

Huh?? Who is we? Tim Tyler started this forum and that's where the operators started to post.

 

This site ran into a problem when it started having advertising and sponsorship, that's when the signal to noise ratio when thru the roof. No sadly most of the people that used to post don't, and I both understand and agree with their reason's for it.

The "we" is the SOA. "WE" the SOA had its own forum on "OUR" (the SOA) own site. Are you seriously trying to come at me over my post here? I was simply stating that I don't think there is any need for 2 steadicam forums. I am not trying to take credit for anything to do with this forum, give me a break Eric.

We used to have a seperate forum on the SOA site and we decided to combined the two so we could bring EVERYONE in the industry together. It's too bad we have to branch off to another forum because of a few individuals who get a little too annoyed and other individuals who's skin is a little too thin. It goes both ways. I will stay here and encourage others to do the same. It's nothing personal, I just don't think we need another forum. Keep in mind this forum has over 1000 members, and maybe 5 or 6 have caused some problems.

jay kilroy

VP, SOA

Michael,

I have the EMS "Chilkats" they may be a bit much for LA temps, but I love them. Warm, dry and comfy. They have some great waterproof stuff with out the thinsulate that you might want to check out. Here is the link to their site EMS check it out good luck.

jay

ps they may even have some gloves for you.

BRAND NEW, 7 LEFT

Essential tool for any operators kit. Easy to mount and convenient dual sided socket blocks for left and right side operating.

-Cardellini Headlock

-Left and Right Anodized Aluminum Socket Blocks

-All hardware included

$1000.00

Give me a call or email if you have any questions.

jay kilroy, VP SOA

jkilroy@steadicam-ops.com

215.919.4636

I wonder if there are any steadicam workshops near NY/Long Island? If you know any please let me know.

Arch

Arch,

We have the SOA workshop in May, in Philadelphia. Check it out SOA Workshop

jay