dvcam150 Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 Why did I have to re-register? When I tried to log on I got a message saying, "Sorry there is no DVCam150 registered...". Since I re-registered with the exact same user name and exact same password will I have two accounts? Is there any record that I am a paid member of SOA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Hardwick Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 If I'm not mistaken, this forum is not owned or even exactly affiliated with the SOA. I could be wrong about this, so don't jump down my back if I am. In any case, I believe that yuor SOA membership (user name/password) is totally separate from this board's registration. The SOA site simply links to this discussion board. So if you never visited this board before, that's why you were not recognized. Just trying to help.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Tyler Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 Why did I have to re-register? When I tried to log on I got a message saying, "Sorry there is no DVCam150 registered...". Is there any record that I am a paid member of SOA? You had to re-register because this is a new forum system. It is not technically compatable with the pre-2004 forum system/software. SteadicamForum.com is not a service of the SOA. This forum is free, and a paid membership anywhere is not required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Erwin Landau Posted January 21, 2004 Premium Members Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 The SOA used to have a discussion board that was supposed to pick up for the AOL board??? Anyhow... that's ancient history.... the SOA site now just links to the Forum. That's where the misunderstanding comes about that people talk about the SOA board and are totally surprised when people are talking about the Steadicam Forum. Also the Classifieds from the SOA are not linked to the ForumClassifieds. So the SOA membership does not hook you up for this forum and I think that should be clarified on the SOA website... Also what happend or better does not happen with the SOA website in general and the SOA in special??? The News letters never made it onto the site also all the promissed updates were promissed for years now and never happend... What's up SOA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Brant S. Fagan SOC Posted January 22, 2004 Premium Members Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Erwin-- As the foremost Steadicam information source other than Garrett, Larry, Tiffen, GPI, et. al., I would have guessed that you would know what happpended with the SOA back in the mid to late 1990s. As most people know, Garrett Brown and Jerry Holway were the main components which both formed and held the SOA foundation together. Once things got politically charged with the release of the PRO and the polarization of the Steadicam world, there developed some feelings, on both sides of the equation which placed "strains" on "relations" among operators. Not only did many operators, in my opinion, forget the foundations of the trade and what made this whole thing possible, but they began to drift into "camps," one for one side and one for the other. While many people may feel that the SOA was a failed experiment and simply developed work for Garrett and Jerry, this simply was not the case. I for one actually received calls and BOOOKINGS from my SOA listing! But the main focus of my post was actually supposed to be about the SOA Steadicam Letter and the Forum. Back when the Letter was possibly the only "forum" for the exchange of ideas, concepts and parts, let's remember who generated this material;readers and SOA members! Since the rise of AOL and later the original Steadicam Forum, who was left submitting articles and ads? Everyone had left for greener pastures on line. Many folks clammered for a downloadable resource containing the Letter. I for one enjoy perusing my copies of the Ltter from time to time. However, there were two avenues for placing the Letter on line. One was to simply scan the printed pages and be satisfied with that. The second was to rebuild the documents from the component level and make a truly original and downloadable document available. Since this work would undoubtably have fallen to Jerry Holway, who has been rather busy working as an operator and DP and Ultra designer, you can imagine how we arrived at this juncture. Any folks who would like to contribute to the efforts needed to rebuild the docs should step forward and be heard. Let's remember how the original documents were generated: by many different people. While the SOA may not be as "aggressive" a unit as say, oh, the Teamsters, let's recall how the Steadicam community developed and surrived from the early days; teamwork and fraternity. You may not want to admit it, but Steadicam still is a "team sport." Folks should remember that when the s&%t hits the fan, who can you call? I for one, have already voluteered to help scan pics for Jerry. Anyone else got some free time and computer skills? Brant "Getting Colder Again in NH" Fagan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Erwin Landau Posted February 10, 2004 Premium Members Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Hi Brant, That post got away from me... Thank you for the flowers... but I'm still only scratching the surface... I was not aware that the PRO vs. Steadicam dispute had anything to do with the demiss of the SOA and not to talk about the Letters... I thought that was the Internet's fault... I got bookings from the SOA as well... and think that the SOA is a great idea... that got a bit abandaned. We got to thank the SOA and Janice Arthur for the Steadicam insurance Policy with Mr. Bennet and Walter P. Dolle. I offered my help in the past not only because they help me out when I started out, but also because I couldn't look at the hopelessly outdated Resources... I never got an answer back. I offered them an updated Resource section... by now mine is not as accurate as it was about 3 years ago... etc... Anyhow... what's my point? Don't know! Give me a call if you need help... I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruben Sluijter Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 I would be more than glad to help in anyway, been told I have some computer skills (yo dawg, ya'll gots dem mad skillz bra'!!!...no idea what that means) and anything I can do to help the Steadicam community would be my honor! I can also type pretty fast. So, Brant (BTW, you may remember me from Venice with the boom/tilt exercise using nothing but a glass of alcohol), if I can do anything just let me know. Peace, Ruben "Likes to keep busy" Sluijter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Stephen Murphy Posted February 10, 2004 Premium Members Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Count me in as well guys. Im a bit out of the way but if you want to send some of that workload my way ill happily scan images, re formatt documents etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members jay kilroy Posted February 10, 2004 Premium Members Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Well gentlemen this is where I should introduce myself, my name is Jay Kilroy. I am an operator in the Philly area. I took the SOA workshop about 6 years ago. I stayed in contact with Mike, Jerry and Garrett. Mike has pretty much taken over the duties of the SOA with Jerry and Garrett's help ofcourse, and now mine. Mike is pretty busy with his job on 3rd Watch. Jerry and Garrett are also quite busy with their endeavors as well. Anyway to wrap up a short story that went long I am helping Mike with the SOA stuff. We recently posted some updates on other workshops and would be glad to post other updates that anyone may have. Feel free to contact the site throught the aol account at callcam@aol.com. I hope tis all made sense. jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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