Premium Members Pedro Guimaraes SOC Posted March 19, 2011 Author Premium Members Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 Preping my first Epic/Atom job, I take some pictures on set this weekend..... The rig is definatley on the heavy side, "ready to shoot" about 68lbs on the arm. (so...camera/rig/sled/batteries etc..) The rig and cameras themselves weigh in at 38lbs. So in handheld mode your dealing with about 40lbs. So not so bad.....but Since you need to counter balance all that front heaviness on the steadicam with the balance weight and your post things add up quick. Using this shoot this weekend as a test since I'm getting ready to operate atom/epic combo for about 8 weeks on a different project. On that one we will make use of a handsfree segway for most of the shooting...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members nealnorton Posted March 19, 2011 Premium Members Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 Hi Guys: Well here is a pic of my first 3d experience. All black cans wound up 100%. Rats nest of cable including a special light power cable I had made up. Really heavy. Really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members RonBaldwin Posted March 19, 2011 Premium Members Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 Mmmmm, Neal. Looks really fun! The future looks brighter and brighter (for our chiropractors) everytime I see pics of these rigs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Osvaldo Silvera SOC Posted March 20, 2011 Premium Members Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 Now that the Go pro HD cams have LCD's on them and live out, we need to take advantage of that and het the folks at GOPRO to make different lenses for them then make an HD rig for the Flyer and pilot rigs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members John atkinson Posted March 20, 2011 Premium Members Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 Hi Guys: Well here is a pic of my first 3d experience. All black cans wound up 100%. Rats nest of cable including a special light power cable I had made up. Really heavy. Really. Since I started out in Steadicam (mid 1990's) the wave has been really heavy cameras, to lighter versions that are quite acceptable on the rigs. First film, beta cam, digibeta, HD, HDV, DSLR. This whole 3-D gimmick starts the process all over again. I know I have an optimal operating weight load for my performance. Even the RF cameras for sports have gotten weight friendly. The 3D with two full size cameras is rediculous. I saw the handheld 3D rigs and laughed at that as well. Until these things are designed around small cameras I don't see the payoff of trudging around with all that weight. JA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Brad Olander Posted March 20, 2011 Premium Members Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 Now that the Go pro HD cams have LCD's on them and live out, we need to take advantage of that and het the folks at GOPRO to make different lenses for them then make an HD rig for the Flyer and pilot rigs! Have you seen this? GoPro 3D pics at Engadget.com. And from the GoPro website... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Rob Vuona SOC Posted March 20, 2011 Premium Members Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 Hey Brad, I think you should post some Picts of your 3-D rig back in 1996 when we were out shooting , "On Tour" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members RonBaldwin Posted March 20, 2011 Premium Members Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 Now that the Go pro HD cams have LCD's on them and live out, we need to take advantage of that and het the folks at GOPRO to make different lenses for them then make an HD rig for the Flyer and pilot rigs! Have you seen this? GoPro 3D pics at Engadget.com. And from the GoPro website... cool! But by the time they figure that out for big production they will go back to story telling to keep audience's glued to the screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members mark morgan Posted March 20, 2011 Premium Members Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 Preping my first Epic/Atom job, I take some pictures on set this weekend..... The rig is definatley on the heavy side, "ready to shoot" about 68lbs on the arm. (so...camera/rig/sled/batteries etc..) The rig and cameras themselves weigh in at 38lbs. So in handheld mode your dealing with about 40lbs. So not so bad.....but Since you need to counter balance all that front heaviness on the steadicam with the balance weight and your post things add up quick. Using this shoot this weekend as a test since I'm getting ready to operate atom/epic combo for about 8 weeks on a different project. On that one we will make use of a handsfree segway for most of the shooting...... hi pedro, now could you mount or flip the rear balance mechanism up so that you have more room for pans and freedom while operating i know it may change your post length since you probably don't want to go any heavier at the bottom of your sled, by the way i got to do some live 3d stuff with the element technica guys and they were great to work with best regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Pedro Guimaraes SOC Posted March 22, 2011 Author Premium Members Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 So I did my first 3D shoot with the ATOM/Epic combo.... The company that makes the "V3/angeniuex " moving iris lens system apparently helped sponsor the shoot so I was forced to fly with that lens system. This was unfortunate since the "v3" system adds alot of weight to the lens and also requires a "sync" box and a adjuster box.....this really upped the cables and complexity of the rig....not to mention weight...front weight! So all in all the overall weight was really high even though we were using the new epic cameras...and a magnesium rig! To make matters worse it rained alot the night before and we were shooting in a grassy and muddy field. My feet were sinking with every heavy step. It was very tricky to operate, especially since "as usual" I had a teather of 2 hd-sdi cables to deal with, windy conditions as well on top of everything else. LOW Mode....was waaay harder than even I expected! It felt sooo heavy! and I had to modify the shots we wanted to do since at the time they had me walking on a sloped surface in low lode! I'm really going to re-think this setup. I might move some things to the bottom....try to shorten the post....ummmm. I need to make this better since I just booked a 7 week 3D job with a atom/epic. Luckily we will be using a segway on that job! hardmount is still the way to go.... Here some pics from the shoot... During camera setup....you can see all the extra V3 boxes and cables.... my built rig for the day... Low mode....argh!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Pedro Guimaraes SOC Posted March 22, 2011 Author Premium Members Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Our cast for the day Sara Paxton and David Joel Moore were in good spirits despite the cold weather and I got alot of "...how heavy is that?" questions that day....from them and the rest of the crew. This actually marks the 3rd 3D project I have done with Joel.... In the next week I will continue to try to come up with a better setup for this combination. I wanna try short primes (lighter!) and different weight setups....I think I can get the overall weight to come down. Pic of me helping set up the rig that day...You can see the black boxes attached to the lens that make the iris oscillate to achieve the effect that V3 is pioneering. For more info on the V3 system check out their website.... http://www.inv3.com/index.php/parallax_imaging_technology Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Pedro Guimaraes SOC Posted March 22, 2011 Author Premium Members Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Now that the Go pro HD cams have LCD's on them and live out, we need to take advantage of that and het the folks at GOPRO to make different lenses for them then make an HD rig for the Flyer and pilot rigs! Have you seen this? GoPro 3D pics at Engadget.com. And from the GoPro website... GoPro showed off thier 3D prototype at last year's NAB....almost a year later and....still no GoPro 3D. I use the go pro HD alot. It's a great little camera and certainly will allow us to capture some great unique angles and POV's in 3D. But it's quality is limited and I doubt you will ever see it's use it feature films......maybe for a few frames as a crash cam or something.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members James Puli Posted March 22, 2011 Premium Members Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 We made our own Side by Side rig for a couple of GoPros and stuck it to a motor bike riders helmet and shot him doing jumps, flips and stuff. Footage came out really well, and after a bit of grading, intercut nicely with that Panasonic 3d handycam thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members RonBaldwin Posted March 22, 2011 Premium Members Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Looks like a really hard day, glad you made it through. Glad you are making a serious rate, this does not look fun at all. Reminds me of a comment Guy Bee made many years ago. He was comparing an over-weight camera on a steadicam to a fat jockey on a race horse. One will likely be embarrassed (and/or injured) by the end result. rb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereoscopic_germany Posted April 6, 2011 Report Share Posted April 6, 2011 The poor mans motorized 3D glidecam solution.... Hi, sorry about my bad english, i´m from Germany / Munich. So here first tests with a motorized Beamsplitter-Rig for the Glidecam 4000 and other systems for a max. weight of 4.5 KG Remote via 40MHz Remotecontrol so i can adjust the interocular distance between +/- 90 mm. The preview Monitor you can see is a typical SD-TV-Monitor. Each camera has a videotransmitter for 2.4 GHz, sending the videosignal to a laptop, and the laptop sends an anaglyph (or other 3D-formats)-signal via videotransmitter to the monitor. During this test the mirror was broken :-(( because there was a failure in the construction, so i have to fix it, and many other bugfixes i have to do. The weight is acutally exact 4.5 KG (with all components including cameras). Using other sleds and components the system can reduce the weight without cameras to ca. 2.5-3 KG. Not implemented at this time are lightshields, and the area around the cameras of this box are currently open. In a later version we will implement levellers for the cameras that we can adjust the angels and rotations. The goal is to create a BS-Rig for small Glidecams like the Glidecam4000 Pro and with low costs. This system is not accurate exact, the final stereoscopic image comes out later in NUKE with Ocula. But its only a prototype. Benny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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