Aaron Horrocks Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 I recently picked up this vest, and upon fitting and resizing, I found a huge crack all the way across the plastic of the strap that goes over the right shoulder. I don't think I should use this vest until I get that fixed, since all the wait will be on the thin strip of leather. Can I try to glue this together? Or melt it back together? What type of plastic is this? Maybe I should just send it to the professionals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members RonBaldwin Posted December 28, 2011 Premium Members Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 talk to Peter Abraham at Tiffen. He used to rebuild vests (maybe still does on the side?!) and can tell you everything you need to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Janice Arthur Posted December 28, 2011 Moderators Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 I can help. Janice. (don't melt it) Steadijan@hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Horrocks Posted March 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Peter Abraham at Tiffen has basically said that they can't repair it because they couldn't get parts for it. But I'd be under the impression that a new piece of - whatever this plastic is - could be cut to size and sown back into the leather... Janice, could you cover what is it that you would do, and the cost? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Janice Arthur Posted March 22, 2012 Moderators Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Peter Abraham at Tiffen has basically said that they can't repair it because they couldn't get parts for it. But I'd be under the impression that a new piece of - whatever this plastic is - could be cut to size and sown back into the leather... Janice, could you cover what is it that you would do, and the cost? Thanks. Aaron; see PM. Janice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Daniel Urbain Posted March 23, 2012 Premium Members Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 If you live in LA there is a guy in Van Nuys who repairs 3A vests out of his shoe repair store. Jack at Sylvan Street Shoe Repair 818-780-3601 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Horrocks Posted June 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 So I took this vest into Tap Plastics, and the expert there said it was polypropylene. I bought a plastic welder, and with all the welding rods it comes with, I could swear that the vest material closer matches polyethylene. Does anyone know for sure which plastic type is sown onto the leather?b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Janice Arthur Posted June 19, 2012 Moderators Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Aaron; I don't know the material but I think Poly... makes sense. I will say there are so many plastics and plastic combinations it could be slight variations of a lot of any number of well known plastics. Here are your options for repairs. 1) Plastic Welder, probably doesn't have the strength to repair this 'fracture/stress' point for very long is my theory. Vests always break there. I mentioned to you a while back to span the gap with a piece of leather or thin aluminum that you bolt on both sides with washers to keep the small bolts from tearing out, is your best and cheapest and fastest solution. (put the heads of the bolts on the inside and the nuts on the outside for comfort through the pad.) 2) Buy a piece of plastic for vest from Tiffen, cut it to fit etc., for $150 and make it fit by putting in the other parts of the vest, probably a bunch of work but your avatar shows an able bodied, smart looking guy who could probably figure it out. 3) Go to shoe repair place with your piece of leather to span the gap as above and maybe they can sew it over the broken place. Hope this helps, good luck. Janice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Horrocks Posted June 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 A weld, should be the best form of repair. If it doesn't hold, which would be surprising, I can weld it again, and weld another patch on. Or in fact, do that from the start. If the "weld" fails, I can always do a patch job after the fact, with more plastic or riveting or screwing in an aluminum plate. Or buy a replacement plastic part to have sown in on the leather. This plastic welder, is the largest heaviest duty 120V, made in USA one that I could find. It's for fixing automotive plastics. I'm sure that it will do the job. I'm going to be giving this thing a try in a month or so, depending on USMC training... As far as the $150 plastic... Tap plastics would be about $30 a square foot, and I'd just have to trim to size. For my technical expertise, I've used to build robots, firearms, restore 1950s Army vehicles, and I've done a bunch of wood shop and arc welding classes. I'm pretty confidant that I can fix this plastic part if I use the right tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Janice Arthur Posted June 20, 2012 Moderators Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 A; Whatever your welder cost up to you but for a three inch repair not worth the purchase if it was me. (I wouldn't want the thing cluttering up my garage for that probable one time use?) Since you can replace the plastic so cheap that's the best bet in my book. Good luck JA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Horrocks Posted June 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 I think the worst thing cluttering up my garage is the 20 ton press, but when I need to bend a piece of metal up to 1" thick, it's a life-saver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Stefano Ben Posted June 20, 2012 Premium Members Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 The Leather it's the best solution! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Horrocks Posted August 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2022 It's been over 10 years, but this post was referenced elsewhere, and I was asked if I ever did get a "plastic welder" and fix my vest? I did! I got the MiniWeld Model 6 (5600HT) from the Urethane Supply Company. It was the heaviest duty one that works on 120V (110V), and the other models use 240V (220V). The repairs have held these last 10 years... even though a few other things have broken on it. So far I have yet to use the vest for filming, only for cosplaying a Smartgunner Colonial Marines from the movie ALIENS. Which, by the way, we did some photos and filming this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benedikt Schneider Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 (edited) Hello guys, I was just about to open up a new thread about the 3A Vest, but since this one here is on topic (kind of) I go ahead and occupy it with my current problem surrounding my 3A Vest. I am in dire need of new Screws for the Bridge Plate and the Socket Block since the plastic Top caps are snapping off one after another when adjusting. And also I guess the screws are as old as the vest itself ('96) so... maybe the time has come for them to be put aside into the spare parts box. Now my question is: Do you guy's know what thread diameter I'm dealing with? Since I'm located in germany, we don't really have a big range of inch threaded screws here to buy. Maybe you can help me out! Thank you very much. Kind regards, Ben Edited March 18 by Benedikt Schneider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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