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Tim Yoder

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From Rob Vuona's post in another thread .....

 

There are 5 steadicams here

• Dave Eastwood on Stage

He's using one of his custom EFP, Hill, Pro frankin rigs, pro vest and Blue spring arm

 

• Hector Ramirez in pit and Audience

He's using another custom Hill/Pro frankin rig, pro vest and masters arm

 

• Rob Vuona backstage and Winners walk

I'm using the Phantom•V, pro vest and pro arm

 

• Tore Livia outside entrance fashion walk

He's using an XCS, pro vest and pro arm

 

• John Perry is on the Blue Stage at the beginning of the Red Carpet

He's using a Phantom•V rig, Pro vest and pro arm

 

Awesome work guys!

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• Dave Eastwood pro vest and Blue spring arm

 

• Hector Ramirez pro vest and masters arm

 

• Rob Vuona pro vest and pro arm

 

• Tore Livia pro vest and pro arm

 

• John Perry Pro vest and pro arm

 

 

Hrrrmmmmm see a trend?

 

(No G series arm's or Tiffen suits.....)

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• Dave Eastwood pro vest and Blue spring arm

 

• Hector Ramirez pro vest and masters arm

 

• Rob Vuona pro vest and pro arm

 

• Tore Livia pro vest and pro arm

 

• John Perry Pro vest and pro arm

 

 

Hrrrmmmmm see a trend?

 

(No G series arm's or Tiffen suits.....)

 

We get it Eric, you don't like Tiffen.

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We get it Eric, you don't like Tiffen.

 

 

No David, you miss the point. Has nothing to do with me liking or not liking Tiffen.....

 

From what I've seen, you've been really hard on the Tiffen arms and vests. It seems that every chance you get, you bring up all of the flaws they have. Yes, Tiffen arms have issues with telegraphing, and people often confuse ISO-Elasticity with friction, but Tiffen still makes pretty good stuff. I'm not trying to be rude at all, but I do see you arguing a lot with Jerry and other Tiffen users about how Pro, XCS, and WK make vastly superior products. They make better products, but at a higher price. Now play nice.

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From what I've seen, you've been really hard on the Tiffen arms and vests. It seems that every chance you get, you bring up all of the flaws they have. Yes, Tiffen arms have issues with telegraphing, and people often confuse ISO-Elasticity with friction, but Tiffen still makes pretty good stuff. I'm not trying to be rude at all, but I do see you arguing a lot with Jerry and other Tiffen users about how Pro, XCS, and WK make vastly superior products. They make better products, but at a higher price. Now play nice.

and I though I was the [only] one that noticed this trend. I learned from Tiffen while demonstrating for NAB, that one should only speak highly of the products we represent (I don't receive a check from Tiffen) and let the consumer arrive at their own conclusion with the education we have given them about the gear. But NEVER badger another product... even if it truly does suck like a rotten egg on a steamy August day in Georgia.

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Yes, Tiffen arms have issues with telegraphing, and people often confuse ISO-Elasticity with friction, but Tiffen still makes pretty good stuff. I'm not trying to be rude at all, but I do see you arguing a lot with Jerry and other Tiffen users about how Pro, XCS, and WK make vastly superior products. They make better products, but at a higher price. Now play nice.

 

No David, I don't confuse the made up word with friction, it IS friction, and yes those three DO make a better product and guess what, I've flown EVERYTHING I've commented on, I've been doing this and have been around Steadicam for 32+ years, so my opinions and knowledge come from experience.. Have you flown all the equipment being discussed in this thread? What do you fly? How did you come about it? Those answers might be telling wrt this discussion....

 

And once again, you missed the point of my post, it wasn't that I don't like Tiffen arms and suits (I've never said I dont like their suits so I'm not ure where you got that) it was that those operators even some flying Tiffen sleds chose a different arm and suit manufacture

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Erik;

 

I'm sorry but I did make the leap, I did look to see what gear they were using.

 

We all appreciate your help but we could write your biography.

 

We know your gear; your preferences; your hatred of friction; your work etc. We know you raced cars; trisected an angle; have flown planes; but your work is done here.

 

I don't have a dog in this fight but its just done.

 

Let us make some leaps of thought, heck give us something to gossip about. These are smart men and women who made it this far they'll figure it out. None of us started at the top, we all bought what we could afford and then bought better as we could afford it.

 

Go cure cancer. Thanks.

 

Janice

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