Cinetronic Digital Level Question

[GregBubb]

Guys, unless I am totally off my rocker here I think you're completely misunderstanding what is being stated by Sony. Chris are you stating that you will be coming out with a screen that is 1920 x 1080 native resolution in 7”?

 

Full HD viewing is standard on most all LCDs currently on the market in the 1280 x800 resolution. It was just one reason this resolution was developed and superior to all other screen resolutions. In my opinion only.

 

I looked at the Sony attachment above, they don’t state the native resolution of the monitor screen. Rather it will display a full HD 1920 x 1080, which is common for everyone using this 1280 x 800 screen. I would bet that Sony at best will be using the 1280 x 800 screen. But I have a friend that works there and I will contact him Monday next week and ask if he knows. He is in a different division but I might get the heads up or maybe not. Because it is not released yet, I will find out.

 

What is meant when they say “the monitor will be able to view full HD” is that they will be able to show you the full pixel area of the camera sensor which with the latest 2K (a &b), 4K standards along with others, will bring the aspect ratio (I am going off the top of my head for a conversation over 5 months ago with the engineers) something in the 2.5XX:1 ratio. If they are going to program in all the latest adapted standards. This doesn’t mean the screen is a 1920 x 1080 pixel line screen.

 

I still think there is a lot of misunderstandings on LCD monitor screen resolutions. Which is only a pixel line count and all in coming video signals are converted to that pixel count by adding, dropping or doubling+ pixel lines. Electronic component manufacturers design to SMPTE adapted standards.

 

What I have always said to make it easy. LCD should be called HD COMPATIABLE monitors. The major issue for owners of let’s say a 1024 x600 screen is that they won’t be able to use with 1280 x 800 screen without a major overhaul , new screen, driver board, basically new monitor, but you can use the case.

Chime in I am no video engineer, I rely on them and research.

Why can't I jsut answer in 25 words or less? sorry for all the long comments.

 

Greg Bubb

[RonBaldwin]

Screw resolution...I just wanna see a damn image outside in the daylight so I can do my job to the mediocre level of skill I have worked long and hard for. Can't wait to see what you come up with Greg!!! (Yes, you get 3 explanation points...that's only one shy of a Jumbos boot-smack)

 

Ron

[chris bangma]

Yes, the Sony is Full HD, 1920x1080. We will have the same panel at our office next week. As for changing screens, this is no problem for us with the Gen2. This monitor is designed to be modular, with everything controlled by firmware. Changing panels with the ge2 takes a few minutes. A few operators have been to our office and have seen our controller driving a 42" full HD 10 bit panel. As new panels come out, we can continually upgrade to the new panels.

[Robert Starling SOC]

I get it but for Steadicam I just want a nice crisp HD / HD Compatible image that I can see in full daylight without excessive restrictions to viewing angle. A video engineer might need something more technical and it would be important to their work. It seems to be a bit like saying a green screen is full NTSC spec and isn't modifying or converting the pure NTSC image in some way but my guess is that it is doing something to the image.

 

Either way, any manufacturer who is investing time and money in giving us better tools to work with is a brave soul as Steadicam operators as a whole are a very unforgiving clientele. If it were easy someone would have done it by now.

 

This thread is off-topic at this point but interesting to follow.

 

Robert

[chris bangma]

We understand that monitors are a big investment, and wanted to make the Gen2 upgradable. As technology changes every 2 years, the monitor can be upgraded, and stay current with technology. This way you won't constantly be buying a new monitor, and having to sell the old one.

[Victor Lazaro]

Greg, I went to a demo of the Sony monitor and like you didn't believe what the rep was telling me, but after he insisted an confirmation from the AbelCine staff I came to terms with the fact that the monitor had 1920x1080 pixels viewable. It also has a dedicated connector to talk to the F5/55 to use the menus and buttons for it instead of the standard viewfinder. Yes it is full hd, and the colors are great. Also the high brightness button really did make a difference but I only saw it at night and indoors and couldn't test it outdoors.

 

It is true that for steadicam, definition is not critical. I'd rather have a bright, fast, sturdy screen, with a good viewing angle and a good digital level.

[Lawrence Karman]

Greg will have the HD-SDI PDL, a new HD-LCD TB-7 and an HD board upgrade path for current TB-6 owners available later this year, to my knowledge.

 

 

Greg, put me on the li$t!!!

[RonBaldwin]

Me too!