Premium Members Wolfgang Troescher Posted August 28, 2013 Premium Members Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 The rig I'll buy (Porta Head 5, www.portahead.de) offers an interesting feature: a little joystick whereby the (single) operator has a more precise control. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Gundu Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 You guys might be interested in what's brewing here: http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?104574-ProLine-Film-Gimbal-co-developed-by-me-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Alan Rencher Posted August 29, 2013 Premium Members Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 I can feel the hot air blowing through my hair. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Mkokiner Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 I can feel the hot air blowing through my hair. Did somebody bend over and blow you a hot one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Alan Rencher Posted August 29, 2013 Premium Members Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 Yeah, collectively, the reduser community did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members William Demeritt Posted August 29, 2013 Premium Members Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 I consider myself a mostly peaceful man, but I want to bomb this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Gundu Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 I'm sorry my post offended some of you. I am indeed a Reduser and wasn't aware of the attitude towards us here. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Brian Freesh Posted August 30, 2013 Premium Members Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Bob, I dare say your post offended no one (no one who responded anyway). Alan went off topic being harsh about the people who populate that forum, but that's Alan. Will on the other hand used the opportunity of bringing the thread back on topic to express his intense hatred of this discussion in general. Don't mind him, I heard a MOVI slept with his wife. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Sutherland Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Movi - The real threatConsider this shot and the resulting criticism it received: "framing is quite random and headroom is going up and down like the early morning waves at my local beach, the picture was floating and could have been done by an inexperienced operator with expensive gear, mumble, mumble, etc..."Now put a Movi on top of the Sled, balance it up nice and neat, make sure it passes the spin test, and hand the Movi joystick remote to the DOP.As Kevin Stiller once said: "I would love to see movi attached to a steadicam. Imagine the possibilities of that"We soon will.Movi won't replace the Steadicam. Ever. Not gonna happen. But if combined with a Steadicam, it will allow less experienced operators to give senior operators a serious run for their money. And that's the real reason why veterans hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Afton Grant Posted August 30, 2013 Premium Members Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Movi won't replace the Steadicam. Ever. Not gonna happen. But if combined with a Steadicam, it will allow less experienced operators to give senior operators a serious run for their money. And that's the real reason why veterans hate it. I have almost no concern a less experienced operator would ever give me a run for my money...not just because they have a certain fancy tool anyway. One bit of knowledge experience has afforded me is the real details that keep operators employed have nothing to do with gear and everything to do with personality and...guess what? Experience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Sutherland Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 With the Movi remote in his hands the DOP is the one who's really framing the shot, plus he has more than enough experience for the both of us. We haven't noticed any problems with my "personality" lately, but a motorized gimbal on top of my sled will be the best bang for the buck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Eric Fletcher S.O.C. Posted August 30, 2013 Premium Members Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 With the Movi remote in his hands the DOP is the one who's really framing the shot, plus he has more than enough experience for the both of us. We haven't noticed any problems with my "personality" lately, but a motorized gimbal on top of my sled will be the best bang for the buck. Lol. No the DP wants to do what's he's supposed to do, watch the shot, YOU as the Steadicam operator are the one that should be operating the shot. After all that is what our job title is and paycheck should be reflecting You and too many others don't understand what the position of OPERATOR actually is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Sutherland Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Every DOP I ever met told me they would love to control a steadicam shot, if given half a chance. The Movi on a steadicam does precisely that. It also keeps a level roll axis, a level tilt axis, and provides the DOP with extremely fine tuned pan and tilt control. Another advantage is that it guarantees that the shot is framed exactly the way the DOP wants it to be.And if that's not enough, it also goes from high mode to low mode just like the Alien Revolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Eric Fletcher S.O.C. Posted August 30, 2013 Premium Members Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Every DOP I ever met told me they would love to control a steadicam shot, if given half a chance. The Movi on a steadicam does precisely that. It also keeps a level roll axis, a level tilt axis, and provides the DOP with extremely fine tuned pan and tilt control. Another advantage is that it guarantees that the shot is framed exactly the way the DOP wants it to be. And if that's not enough, it also goes from high mode to low mode just like the Alien Revolution. Shawn who are theses DP's? The only times I've heard of them saying that is if the Steadicam operator wasn't getting the shot... I remember who you are now. You're the not a gimbal, really is a gimbal pin and cone dynamic balance motorized not motorized zoom lens counter weight guy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members RonBaldwin Posted August 30, 2013 Premium Members Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Every DOP I ever met told me they would love to control a steadicam shot, if given half a chance. The Movi on a steadicam does precisely that. It also keeps a level roll axis, a level tilt axis, and provides the DOP with extremely fine tuned pan and tilt control. Another advantage is that it guarantees that the shot is framed exactly the way the DOP wants it to be. And if that's not enough, it also goes from high mode to low mode just like the Alien Revolution. hmmm...must be why dp's are always grabbing the gimbal, jumping onto the dolly, controlling the techno or ultimate arm on the porsche? Wait...don't see that. Control freaks or an operator sucking balls might lure a dp to the camera? Maybe that is why every dp YOU work with wishes he/she can control your shot? I will notify the dp's I work with to learn the joystick because I am demoting myself to dollygrip and therefore will no longer run the set, set shots with the director, work with/help the actors or hit on the extras. That being said, a dolly grip will make or break an operator and is a key person to rely on...but the last thing he is doing is all the duties of an operator. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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