Interesting new rig

[Barry Mkokiner]

Then there's "Barry"...

 

You should meet my cousin

 

Haywood Jablomey

[Alan Rencher]

I remember this guy now. Isn't this the guy who said he invented the Steadicam because he saw one once and "invented"it from his memory? I'll have to go back and find the thread. It was just as convoluted and frustrating as this.

[William Demeritt]

Seriously. Stop. Everyone. Don't feed the trolls.

[Eric Fletcher S.O.C.]

 

Same way he knows that all DP's want to operate STEADICAM shots and can't wait to use the Movi on STEADICAM

 

2656 posts?

 

I like to think I got an open mind and all, but Holy Shit Eric.

 

Less than 1 post a day....

 

Short answer: Turn off the pan motor for whip pans. Not that big of an issue for tilting, since very few Steadicam shots involve "whip-tilts". Where it's really going to shine is with long lens shots. The added stability of the Movi will do wonders. There will be many tweaks along the way, but eventually operators and designers will find the sweet spot for the Steadicam/Movi combo.

 

 

and with that comment you don't understand how the movi works..... Long lens work with a Movi? nope not gonna happen. Long lenses on steadicam are no issue I have no issue with a 180mm up on the rig

 

 

I give up. Perhaps we should close this thread until the Movi is out on the market. This thread is pointless now.

 

Alright boys and girls: Can somebody in the classroom tell me what is the defining characteristic of fascism?

 

Censorship.

 

Actually closing this thread, or banning you and your alter ego wouldn't be censorship since you have violated the TOU's of this board. This isn't your board, yet you think it is... You continue to argue yet you don't have a clue what you are arguing about. You have no experience with real steadicam's, no experience with the Movi, no experience on set. You are a narcissist, you post for the attention, you don't know or care if you are right or wrong, you just need the attention.

[Shawn Sutherland]

Actually closing this thread, or banning you and your alter ego wouldn't be censorship since you have violated the TOU's of this board. This isn't your board, yet you think it is... You continue to argue yet you don't have a clue what you are arguing about. You have no experience with real steadicam's, no experience with the Movi, no experience on set. You are a narcissist, you post for the attention, you don't know or care if you are right or wrong, you just need the attention.

 

 

[Ken Nguyen]

 

Actually closing this thread, or banning you and your alter ego wouldn't be censorship since you have violated the TOU's of this board. This isn't your board, yet you think it is... You continue to argue yet you don't have a clue what you are arguing about. You have no experience with real steadicam's, no experience with the Movi, no experience on set. You are a narcissist, you post for the attention, you don't know or care if you are right or wrong, you just need the attention.

 

 

 

Seriously, this is not something a 51 year-old should do.

Be educated.

Fight like a man, a grown-up man.

Or, at least, learn to respect yourself first.

 

Ken Nguyen.

[Lars Erik]

Congrats Shawn, you've just proven Eric's point, and you did that without uttering a single word. I applaud you.

 

But I think we should all just ignore him. He's narcissist as Eric said.

 

Sooner or later the staff from the mental hospital he resides in will know he' s sneaking out of his room at night and using the staffs computer without permission.

[Eric Fletcher S.O.C.]

What shawn doesn't realize is that we have the steadicam's and we will have access to the movi's that he so desperately wants, but because of his behavior here he will never have. Not only is the steadicam community one of people willing to go out of their way to help, its also a community with a long memory...

[Lawrence Karman]

Why is anyone responding to this douche? Let it go.

[Shawn Sutherland]

When I jumped into this thread, I made three predictions about the Steadicam/Movi combination:

First, I predicted that somebody would do it fairly soon and they did.

That happened when Andreas' announced he would try his Portahead System overslung on the steadicam sled.

Second, I predicted that whip pans would not be a problem. Andreas concurred: "Also I plan to have the pan motor disconnectable with a lemo plug and that the pan axis can be fixed with a bracket to allow for whip pans as Shawn pointed out"

Third, I predicted the amount rotational kick back movement to fight against when the Movi turns on the pan axis would be insignificant. Andreas confirmed with the following statement:

"I also found the post on the freefly forum and some people answered that the movement of the brushless gimbal will change it's CG but that's not the case. 3 axis brushless gimbals need to be in balance in all axis to work properly so the CG will not change on the steadicam sled. But I didn't really notice a fight or something going on there"

So far, I'm leading 3-0

The only credit I received came from a completely unbiased, independent source. I could not ask for a better gift.

Meanwhile, here's what I got from everybody else:

"I have no experience"

"I'm a liar"

"Every claim ever I make is not true"

"My work sucks"

"I'm clueless"

"Everything I say or do is insignificant and therefore doesn't matter"

"I don't get it"

"I don't understand Steadicam"

"I don't have a leg to stand on"

"The combination of Movi on a Steadicam stupid and won't work"

And on, and on, and on it goes.

Now the best part: With a dozen or more of you taking random pot shots at me from all sides, I'm told to "Fight like a man, a grown-up man."

And you call ME the troll?

As Spock would say: "Fascinating Captain".

Now where's my guitar..... here it is. I found it:

You're not gonna change what happens

You can't stop progress

It won't make any difference

A brushless gimbal on top of a Steadicam sled will be the best bang for the buck and you can't stop it.

You can shoot the messenger all you like, but it still won't make any difference. This is coming whether you like it or not.

It won't be long now.

Changing the subject won't matter.

Getting the "last word" won't matter.

This is coming whether you like it or not.

The Genie is out of the bottle now.

Deal with it.

[Alan Rencher]

Although that post is too long for me to have any interest slogging all the way through, I see that you are trying to say that you "predicted" things. This is obviously not true as there are people out there (including previously this very thread) who have already brought up these ideas, tested them, etc. All you predicted was the past.

[Eric Fletcher S.O.C.]

When I jumped into this thread, I made three predictions about the Steadicam/Movi combination:

 

First, I predicted that somebody would do it fairly soon and they did.

 

That happened when Andreas' announced he would try his Portahead System overslung on the steadicam sled.

 

Second, I predicted that whip pans would not be a problem. Andreas concurred: "Also I plan to have the pan motor disconnectable with a lemo plug and that the pan axis can be fixed with a bracket to allow for whip pans as Shawn pointed out"

 

Third, I predicted the amount rotational kick back movement to fight against when the Movi turns on the pan axis would be insignificant. Andreas confirmed with the following statement:

 

"I also found the post on the freefly forum and some people answered that the movement of the brushless gimbal will change it's CG but that's not the case. 3 axis brushless gimbals need to be in balance in all axis to work properly so the CG will not change on the steadicam sled. But I didn't really notice a fight or something going on there"

 

So far, I'm leading 3-0

 

 

Sigh.......

 

No, you didn't. You are 0-3

 

Freefly put a Movi on a steadicam in January of this year, You prediction was made in late august making you late to the party

 

Whip Pans require you to physically lock out the pan axis thereby taking away between 33% and 50% of the DP's control of the head and since you said every DP you've talked to (we are still waiting on your list of DP's that you've talked to about this) wanted full control of the steadicam shot and framing. You were wrong again....

 

Since those of us that have been posting on the thread understand the dynamics of both the steadicam and remote heads we understand the the need for the movi head to be balanced therefore we also understand that it's influence on the rig will be negligible much like the AR head. so again you are wrong.

 

Mr. Broomstick wedding photographer man you are not 3-0 you're 0-3 simply because you don't understand what you are arguing

 

While we are at it. could you please link us to some of your independent films where you came up with new and creative solutions to problems, it would help your credibility for us to see your work not in a demo reel form but as a released project

[Ken Nguyen]

 

When I jumped into this thread, I made three predictions about the Steadicam/Movi combination:

 

First, I predicted that somebody would do it fairly soon and they did.

 

That happened when Andreas' announced he would try his Portahead System overslung on the steadicam sled.

 

Second, I predicted that whip pans would not be a problem. Andreas concurred: "Also I plan to have the pan motor disconnectable with a lemo plug and that the pan axis can be fixed with a bracket to allow for whip pans as Shawn pointed out"

 

Third, I predicted the amount rotational kick back movement to fight against when the Movi turns on the pan axis would be insignificant. Andreas confirmed with the following statement:

 

"I also found the post on the freefly forum and some people answered that the movement of the brushless gimbal will change it's CG but that's not the case. 3 axis brushless gimbals need to be in balance in all axis to work properly so the CG will not change on the steadicam sled. But I didn't really notice a fight or something going on there"

 

So far, I'm leading 3-0

 

 

Sigh.......

 

No, you didn't. You are 0-3

 

 

Eric,

You were wrong.

Shawn is really Mr. Three-Zero.

[Mark Schlicher]

Epic thread.

[GrantCulwell]

All I could think about while reading this thread...