Nelson Reis Posted June 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 Ok this will be my last post in this tread as it seems most of the guys ( misunderstood ) or not the point of uploading the footage ... The point was not not show my skills cause obiviosly there not there yet . Where i live its very hard to find a workshop so its getting professional opinion and how to start in the rigth path gets harder . So i turned to this forum since its go a newbie section. My definition of a newbie is anybody that gets into it ...either a camera op thast transition , a a.c or simple a very first timer ... I only started commenting on eric comment ...NOT because i cant accept my downfalls but because true my reading in here he seems to put anything or anybody down .... My problem with that is since hes got the time to troll true the newbie section he should make it worth while ... ( well thast what defines us as operators and ppl ) ... I DONT have a problem with negative criticism as i matter of fact i want that vs a pat in the back and a fake smile but again if you got the time to post anything make it positive even if its negative .....take your 20 or so years of experience and give it to who wants to learn .... ( again this is want defines us as ppl ) as a op i got along way to go and get the finesse that it requires one to call himself a op ....but i rest assure you that i will not change as a person ...and 20 y from now waist time in somebodys learning curve by trying to show to a forum that im a op with finesse ...and drop a post ...here we go again .... Instead if i have the time i would spot their weakness and tell some tricks of the trade of what im maybe doing wrong ..... I thank the ppl that have spoted those weakness in MY first set of fligths and gave me constructive criticism ....only with that i can better my work along with lots of pratique ... Fly safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Eric Fletcher S.O.C. Posted June 28, 2013 Premium Members Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 Nelson, If you have been reading this forum before you posted as you claim you would have understood my first post. Others have tried to clarifiy it for you and it has gone on to prove itself for two pages. This is a forum of professionals who all "troll" the newbies section (my idea to have this section actually) usually while at work in between setups. We try to help those that are respectful and understand that they are among a group of professionals. Those that show up and go "Look at my stuff! What a think?" Don't fare well but you already know that. Those that do come here and introduce themselves and show something that they have been working on day in and day out for month or years tend to well here. That's what William tried to tell you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Reis Posted June 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 Eric , I do not wish to keeping this back and forth especially if you going to bring your guns out ... Your experience to mines is like day and nite ...if you feel you need to bring your reel out to prove anything you just pr the word you use so and so often ( professional ) is not the same in my dictionary ...a profesional not only got skills on what they do but also finesse and work ethics ...on the field i do not know you so i cant tell in here you looking like a bullgog to a chiaua ... You have great skills as a op but anybody that post what u post ( not just in this tread ) have a problem with new steadicam ops to come . Its sad that a simple posts of asking a professional set of ops came to comparing footage from hollywood to a newbie flying a zephry with a 7d ... Again professional comes in all levels and now ill drop the subject and 5 years from now ill show my guns to a newbie and tell them oh god not again...keep the good work and the trolling in the newbie section ...cause i got pratice to do ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Alan Rencher Posted June 28, 2013 Premium Members Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 I always want to take the high road and just ignore these threads, but my morbid curiosity usually gets the best of me. It's like watching a train wreck in slow motion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Eric Fletcher S.O.C. Posted June 28, 2013 Premium Members Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 I always want to take the high road and just ignore these threads, but my morbid curiosity usually gets the best of me. It's like watching a train wreck in slow motion. Yup hence my first post 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members William Demeritt Posted June 28, 2013 Premium Members Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 Nelson, Now that this thread has basically gone as I predicted (I can never predict how Baldwin is going to react), please use that as collateral to heed this advice now: You gain nothing by continuing to reply here. You're fighting a losing battle, and the BEST possible outcome is to ignore this thread and lurk... or reach out to people who you think were/are constructive? I dunno. However, the more you reply, thinking you're taking the high ground, the more you are doing harm to yourself. I highly recommend you just resign this thread, keep practicing and working towards your goal. Reply in other threads if you think you can be constructive, but I urge you to just abandon this ship. This thread is like quick sand, and the more you fight, the quicker you're gonna sink. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Victor Lazaro Posted June 29, 2013 Premium Members Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Tetewsky Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 Haven't read through the whole thread but it seems like you posted this footage expecting everyone to be like "wow, that was your first time flying, amazing". It's pretty clear you were seeking compliments on something unworthy of any good remarks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members JobScholtze Posted July 3, 2013 Premium Members Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 He has one great skill though, he is able to irritate people in 2 posts haha. Its like so many people have already said, if you have been practicing for month's, lurked this forum empty, and THEN ask a opinion on your footage, i guarantee you many people would help you with comments. But as Jordan pointed out, posting your first flight wont impress us. And no, we do not take newbie's down, at all. I have plenty of upcoming op's who are skyping me with all there questions and when time gives me the change, i do reply all those questions and make them small clips with examples the can practise. I wish some people would take this work more serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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