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Achim Girnth

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Just from experience with stripped allen & torx bolts in the past (motorcycle, car) it's not that difficult to repair. Some vice grips should give you enough grip on the bolt to unscrew it. Use penetrating lubricant if necessary. Get a replacement bolt and just make sure you use the right size keys from now on.

 

Good luck!

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Just from experience with stripped allen & torx bolts in the past (motorcycle, car) it's not that difficult to repair.  Some vice grips should give you enough grip on the bolt to unscrew it.  Use penetrating lubricant if necessary.  Get a replacement bolt and just make sure you use the right size keys from now on. 

 

Good luck!

 

Thanks for advice Afton :) the last time i had to use penetrating lubricant i well..... wont get into that now :ph34r: .

 

Anyhows was just wondering from people that own or use a flyer regulary if anybody else is unhappy with bottom stage designe. It seems near impossible to get the right amount of tension to hold anything still with thoughs bolts. Perhaps I could fashion some sort of rack and pin type adjustments to hold the arms possition.

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Hi

 

I have trouble keeping the batteries in place during operating. Have to fasten the bolt really tight, but after some time it moves a little, resulting in rig being out of balance... A somewhat larger bolt or a system with radial steps (like a pan bar on a fluid head) might do the trick to keep the load of the batteries in the correct angle.

 

Cheers,

 

Sven

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I remember having problems like this when I owned my Provid. Some of the components were just plain under-designed, and caused headaches and frustration. The knob to lock down the fore/aft adjustment of the top stage, for example, was way too small to get enough torque to really lock the thing down and sometimes it would loosen up and take the rig out of trim. The only explanations I got were always along the lines of "well, the Provid was made to hit a certain price range, so you need to take that into consideration..." which translated to me as "well, we really don't stand behind our lower priced products..."

 

CP had an unfortunate history of letting underengineered components to market. The original Masters arm bearings (and the replacements!), the original Provid arm bearings, the Steadicam DV (which never worked right). Seems like Tiffen got a lot of that under control with the Ultra and the new arms and vests, and hopefully they'll step up and come up with a remedy for your situation.

 

Let us know how it all works out.

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Just out of interest I had a try at seeing how much kit I could stick on a Flyer, while retaining a somewhat realisitc possible set up. - A configuration that might be of some use.

 

I decided to go for a "multicamera live shoot" situation.

The kit:

Stripped down Hitachi V-21W 2/3"camera with sony DSR-1 DVCAM back and Canon YJ12x6.5B4-KRS-SX12 (basic 12x ENG) lens - Weight: 6.6kg [14.5lb]

2 Pag L75 batteries - Weight: (together) 1.3kg [2.9lb]

2 extra monitors ("program" and "prompter") in adition to the Flyer's own. Weight each: about 0.4kg [.9lb]

Plus a couple of other small accesories for counterweight velcroed to the batteries, totalling about .3kg [.7lb]

+ the aditional monitor brackets + cables.

Total of gear on the sled was about 9.7kg [21.4lb]

 

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Note: The pictures are before I cabled up the monitors.

 

Total sled weight was around 12kg [~26.5lb]

 

Total system weight (with arm + vest) was just shy of 18kg [~40lb]

 

Flew VERY smootly and right at the limit of the Flyer. There was still enough room on the post to dock comfterbly. And the arm was hanging just below level (adjusted to maximum lift) right in it's sweet spot.

The 2 aditional monitors did wobble a little if I did some more "aggressive" moves as the mounts where just hand bent metal. But better, almost as light, mounts could be used to improve rigidety. I still found them to be perfectly acceptable for operating with no wobble transfered to the picture.

All that was missing from this set up was Peter's tally light. But it's light enough to be added without consequence.

 

Though this was an ENG camera with a deck, it's about on par with many Triax cameras too. - in fact the Thompson LDK 300 (popular here in finland) is a Kilo [2lb] lighter.

 

I'm not using this set up on a shoot at the moment, but as an experiement I found it interesting to see just how much it will fly.

 

- Mikko

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The arm will take about 26lb.

 

However the sled can only be balanced to hold a ~15lb camera max. (This is where the 15lb spec for the system comes in)

 

And the system is well matched beacuse when the sled is balanced to carry that max of 15lb it will weigh about the 26lb, which is the limit of the arm.

With 15lb of camera and one battery, you can use the rest of that weight for other acceories down below as counterweight. - About 5lb of accesories in fact.

 

No sence in having an arm carry more than the sled can and vice versa.

 

- Mikko

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The arm will take about 26lb.

 

However the sled can only be balanced to hold a ~15lb camera max. (This is where the 15lb spec for the system comes in)

 

And the system is well matched beacuse when the sled is balanced to carry that max of 15lb it will weigh about the 26lb, which is the limit of the arm.

With 15lb of camera and one battery, you can use the rest of that weight for other acceories down below as counterweight. - About 5lb of accesories in fact.

 

No sence in having an arm carry more than the sled can and vice versa.

 

- Mikko

 

Quit impressive Mikko.. and also nice to known and see ! :)

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