manuelgarcia Posted July 16, 2005 Report Posted July 16, 2005 Hello all, since I was looking to upgrade my current IIIA gimbal to a new model, I´d like to know the difference between the different models due the different price range. The outside gimbal, all looks more or less equal but, what do different a gimbal from other? Precision and better bearings help, but for example, It´s much better a PRO than a ULTRA gimbal?? Both are made with good tolerances and materials? Why PRO has better reputation than Ultras? Or, for example, I saw in Ebay a PROGEAR gimbal for $800 and looks like a PRO (OUTSIDE). I suppose that a $800 gimbal couldn´t fight with a $7000 one, but, the near 10 times in price difference is worth the money? It´s 10 times better the PRO? At the begining I thought there are a little brands to see but now there are many of them: PRO,STEADICAM,SACHTLER,CHROSZIEL-RIG,XCS,MK-V,BAER-BEL..... Your experiences could be interesting before purchase one. Any recomendation? Manuel Garcia Quote
Premium Members Amando Crespo Posted January 4, 2009 Premium Members Report Posted January 4, 2009 Hello all, since I was looking to upgrade my current IIIA gimbal to a new model, I´d like to know the difference between the different models due the different price range. The outside gimbal, all looks more or less equal but, what do different a gimbal from other? Precision and better bearings help, but for example, It´s much better a PRO than a ULTRA gimbal?? Both are made with good tolerances and materials? Why PRO has better reputation than Ultras? Or, for example, I saw in Ebay a PROGEAR gimbal for $800 and looks like a PRO (OUTSIDE). I suppose that a $800 gimbal couldn´t fight with a $7000 one, but, the near 10 times in price difference is worth the money? It´s 10 times better the PRO? At the begining I thought there are a little brands to see but now there are many of them: PRO,STEADICAM,SACHTLER,CHROSZIEL-RIG,XCS,MK-V,BAER-BEL..... Your experiences could be interesting before purchase one. Any recomendation? Manuel Garcia Hi Manuel. I can speak about my gimbal... Ultra2 gear. For me is perfect and rules ok. I used few time PRO gear and it gimbal is great also.... Every op./owner have a difficult choice... I´ve an Ultra2 for one year and a half, and I haven´t any problem with gimbal part.... Quote
Premium Members Mike McGowan SOC Posted January 4, 2009 Premium Members Report Posted January 4, 2009 I've had a PRO gimbal for going on 11 years now. I love it and it would take a lot for me to consider getting something else. It works perfectly and I've never had a problem with it. It can hold any camera I've put on it. That being said, I agree with Amando, every operator will have a different oppinion. However, there are some gimbals that are better than others. The PRO (to use a car analogy) is like a Ferrari. There are other modles (Porsche, Lamborgini, etc.) that are also good. I can address the bang for the buck question though. You do get what you pay for. In terms of quality, capability, service, etc. That's not saying other less expensive gimbals are not good, just saying that my PRO gimbal is one of the pieces of equipment that pays my mortgage, it is a very important piece of equipment. Hope that helps, mm. Quote
Premium Members Afton Grant Posted January 4, 2009 Premium Members Report Posted January 4, 2009 ....longest question/answer gap ever. Good gimbal discussion here, but I'm hoping Manuel made his decisions years ago. Quote
Premium Members Mike McGowan SOC Posted January 4, 2009 Premium Members Report Posted January 4, 2009 lol! I just read Amando's post date! Manuel is probably the head of production for Paramount! Quote
Premium Members Henry Gelhart Posted January 4, 2009 Premium Members Report Posted January 4, 2009 Hi Manuel, I agree with Armando and Mike. You should try the gimbals. If you happen to live in CA, you can check out George Paddock Inc. and try the PRO Gimbal. It is a great pice of equipment and I really like it. (Even if I have a Sachtler Artemis Gimbal) So happy new Year! HG Quote
Premium Members Amando Crespo Posted January 5, 2009 Premium Members Report Posted January 5, 2009 lol! I just read Amando's post date! Manuel is probably the head of production for Paramount! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: .....Ja ja ja ja ja...Next time I´ll keep out my sunglasses..... :blink: :blink: :blink: Quote
Premium Members luis castro Posted January 5, 2009 Premium Members Report Posted January 5, 2009 The PRO (to use a car analogy) is like a Ferrari. There are other modles (Porsche, Lamborgini, etc.) that are also good. I m sorry the pro is copy to gimbal original CP ... FERRARI = STEADICAM GIMBAL TOYOTA = PRO SISTEM Quote
Premium Members Eric Fletcher S.O.C. Posted January 5, 2009 Premium Members Report Posted January 5, 2009 The PRO (to use a car analogy) is like a Ferrari. There are other modles (Porsche, Lamborgini, etc.) that are also good. I m sorry the pro is copy to gimbal original CP ... FERRARI = STEADICAM GIMBAL TOYOTA = PRO SISTEM Ummm, no. The pro is a VERY different design. The original CP gimbal was for a .75" centerpost and used thrust bearings on the yoke spindle. The CP model 3 gimbal is closer to the modern gimbal but still very different from the pro gimbal. Quote
Premium Members Eric Fletcher S.O.C. Posted January 5, 2009 Premium Members Report Posted January 5, 2009 The PRO (to use a car analogy) is like a Ferrari. There are other modles (Porsche, Lamborgini, etc.) that are also good. The XCS gimbal must then be the Bugatti Veyron. Quote
Premium Members luis castro Posted January 7, 2009 Premium Members Report Posted January 7, 2009 The PRO (to use a car analogy) is like a Ferrari. There are other modles (Porsche, Lamborgini, etc.) that are also good. I m sorry the pro is copy to gimbal original CP ... FERRARI = STEADICAM GIMBAL TOYOTA = PRO SISTEM Ummm, no. The pro is a VERY different design. The original CP gimbal was for a .75" centerpost and used thrust bearings on the yoke spindle. The CP model 3 gimbal is closer to the modern gimbal but still very different from the pro gimbal. desingn different and materials but , the sistem continue from the original .... Quote
Premium Members Erwin Landau Posted January 18, 2009 Premium Members Report Posted January 18, 2009 Oh great... Are we there again. Okay then if we stay with the automobile analogy then everybody that drives anything that is not a Mercedes Benz is driving a fraking cheap copy... right? Oh please... and yes I'm exited about tomorrow... frak yeah! Quote
Premium Members nick franco Posted January 18, 2009 Premium Members Report Posted January 18, 2009 I give up, what's going on tomorrow? Quote
Premium Members Erwin Landau Posted January 18, 2009 Premium Members Report Posted January 18, 2009 You are obviously not a Battlestar Galactica geek... Quote
Premium Members RonBaldwin Posted January 18, 2009 Premium Members Report Posted January 18, 2009 The PRO (to use a car analogy) is like a Ferrari. There are other modles (Porsche, Lamborgini, etc.) that are also good. I m sorry the pro is copy to gimbal original CP ... FERRARI = STEADICAM GIMBAL TOYOTA = PRO SISTEM Ummm, no. The pro is a VERY different design. The original CP gimbal was for a .75" centerpost and used thrust bearings on the yoke spindle. The CP model 3 gimbal is closer to the modern gimbal but still very different from the pro gimbal. desingn different and materials but , the sistem continue from the original .... look at the dates when the pro gimbal came out. If I remember correctly Cinema Products was coasting with the 3A sled and had stopped selling the 3A gimbal all by itself because they knew folks were putting them on George's and Bob DeRose's new wonder sled (which came about from operators trying to improve CP's design -- CP wasn't listening). George had to come out with his own which happened to be a HUGE improvement over the 3A in every way. It is still a benchmark for precision and smoothness and is so simple to service it's almost comical. rb Quote
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