Premium Members RonBaldwin Posted February 5, 2015 Premium Members Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Sorry for beating that dead horse...just want everyone to be safe. I was also referring to the original India mount...your obviously is much less weight without all the seat/operator. Sorry to confuse the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Jess Haas SOC Posted February 5, 2015 Premium Members Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 It's easy enough to add a little Speed rail rigging to help take the weight and decrease the amount of torque on the hitch. I usually put a T on the vertical Speed rail and have a piece coming back into the vehicle along the floor with sandbags(and me) on it. Also use a cross piece on that piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Yee Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Looks great! I am glad your design does not include a seat with your rig, like the regular india mount. Is it for sale? Or are you willing to make another? Let me know on price and availbilty, My name is Martin, you may reach me at 407-427-0381 or reach_productions@yahoo.com. Thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members rupert peddle Posted March 4, 2015 Premium Members Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 looks pretty cool, but yeah would want to be super sure about the loading, and probably would want to have an independant safety harness/line from the operator to the car, maybe to the seatbelt mountings? on a related note, I have used those bike racks that clamp into a tow bar ball. i've driven hundreds of miles with a few heavy mountain bikes bouncing around on it, and seemly defying the laws of physics the whole thing has remained solid. what are people's thoughs about using a clamp like that for a mount? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Jason Leeds Posted March 5, 2015 Premium Members Report Share Posted March 5, 2015 I am also interested Jordan. PM me if you make more. Thanks and good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Thomas Crescenzo Posted March 7, 2015 Premium Members Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 Nice work! I second the safety harness into the car. I like the second attachment point with the daisy chain up top. A second daisy to the other hinge would stay it back at two points and take out some side to side wobble. It looks like you are already getting a standard daisy fairly tight, but if you need one that you can pull tight quickly I'd recommend a Yates Adjustable Daisy. A hitch tightener would also be a nice addition to take out any wobble. The U bolt style hitch tighteners are probably the most secure that I've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Keslow Posted March 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 Nice work! I second the safety harness into the car. I like the second attachment point with the daisy chain up top. A second daisy to the other hinge would stay it back at two points and take out some side to side wobble. It looks like you are already getting a standard daisy fairly tight, but if you need one that you can pull tight quickly I'd recommend a Yates Adjustable Daisy. A hitch tightener would also be a nice addition to take out any wobble. The U bolt style hitch tighteners are probably the most secure that I've seen. Thomas, Thanks for your thoughts. There is absolutely zero wobble in this mount. The daisy chain isn't necessarily req'd on top just helps to limit the rail when i lean against it. looks pretty cool, but yeah would want to be super sure about the loading, and probably would want to have an independant safety harness/line from the operator to the car, maybe to the seatbelt mountings? on a related note, I have used those bike racks that clamp into a tow bar ball. i've driven hundreds of miles with a few heavy mountain bikes bouncing around on it, and seemly defying the laws of physics the whole thing has remained solid. what are people's thoughs about using a clamp like that for a mount? Rupert, Thanks for the feedback! Should have made the safety features more clear when I started the thread. I have a double D-ring body belt attaching myself to 2 isolated interior mounting points. Originally I went full body harness but after trying it out its complete overkill; way too heavy-duty and constantly rattling around. There's no way I would operate this without some sort of fall protection. Keep in mind worst case scenario should the mount break off...I am sitting on the backend of the car not on the mount. It will break away as I remain seated and attached to the car. When I strap myself into the belt, I only give about an inch of play from the operating position, considering I'm in somewhat of a fixed position. This allows very little force to be applied to the daisy twist chains should any force be applied. Jordan Keslow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Keslow Posted March 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 Quick note before the hall monitors get all worked up... This is a Fall Restraint System. Technically speaking a work-positioning fall restraint system Fall Protection has two categories. Fall restraint systems = prevent you from falling Fall arrest systems = protect you after you fall by stopping the fall before you hit the surface below Additionally for fall restraint, safety guidelines only require 1 mounting point ...I have 2 There is no potential to fall as I am limited in how far I can move from the anchor points. Full body harnesses are designed to arrest the most severe free falls. Jordan Keslow ;) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korey robinson Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 Jordan, I dig your design and looking to use it as inspiration. I'm dealing with a topless jeep wrangler that has a 1-1/4" hitch with a tongue rating of 350lbs. My plan is to buy a cargo tray that attaches to the hitch (same load rating) and bolt some speedrail flanges to it. The vertical speedrail coming out of the flanges will also have speedrail cheeseboroughed at the top of the rail back to the roll bar structure of the jeep. I think I'll also incorporate Jess' piece of speedrail T-eed off the vertical onto the bed of the vehicle, with sandbags and me sitting on it. The vertical rail being the piece I mount the arm to. With the hitch only supporting the weight of the arm, sled, cargo tray (30lbs), and some speed rail bits, I feel confident we'll be below the 350lb tongue rating of the class II 1-1/4". hitch. I myself will be sitting in the car safetied to hard points, just like your setup. I can even run ratchet straps to fixed points or gutter hooks to help take up the load on the cargo tray. Worst case scenario I toss some speedrail starters into the frame of the jeep and beef up the support of the cargo tray. Please chime in with any ideas or concerns! I'll post some pictures when the final rig comes together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korey robinson Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Had my shoot this Sunday. Rig came together nicely and was super solid. The cargo tray was only $80 and my friend loaned me the speedrail and fittings. I basically straddled the middle pipe, sitting/standing on the tray itself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Brian Zaczek Posted June 10, 2015 Premium Members Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 I haven't seen any india mounts like this. I'm not sure what qualifies. But, I've been using this setup out of a minivan. Flys out either sliding door and the rear gate with minimal setup/rigging. The system is speedrail and mitchell based so it can be used in smaller configurations on other vehicles. The eyelets on the two bases makes tie-downs a breeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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