Premium Members Thomas English Posted October 26, 2005 Premium Members Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Dear All, I am well versed with the PS techniks unit, pro35 and mini35 . Next tuesday I have a promo on the movietube. http://www.movietube.com/index2.php It looks like an odd beast. It may balance better than the mini35 or it might be even trickier. Any experience? This will be interesting. Thomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Burton Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 This will be interesting. Thomas Looks impressive :rolleyes: Bet it's heavy though ? -matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members JobScholtze Posted October 26, 2005 Premium Members Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Do i understand this correct? Its only for Mini DV right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Thomas English Posted October 26, 2005 Author Premium Members Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Thats right... miniDV or HDV I ve been shooting quite a few of these 10,000 budgets promo s on Z1 s and PS techniks recently... pikey setup but these are heavyweight clients! RSA and Alchemy . Shows how dire the promo industry is getting. Then again they do look cool in their own special way. Maybe things will change as they slowly swamp the pier to pier networks and pay to download music takes off. Maybe things will get back to the glory days! all my mates in the music biz are looking forward hopeful What seems possible is that the piracy pier/pier may be stemmed just on time to save our film industries! Whatever happens these setups are here to stay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members charlesneufeld Posted October 26, 2005 Premium Members Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Hey, From what I understand this is just a low-tech version of the mini/pro35 etc . That is, I believe you invert the camera on the setup - therefore eliminating the need for corrective optics. And they use a vibrating ground glass vs. a rotating one like the mini35. Perhaps then, in theory, this unit is less power hungrey and may give a image with more light transmission - but then you go through the glass on the dv camera..haha Looks promising though, let us know how it works. I am very excited to fly the mini35 this weekend :) ~C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Thomas English Posted November 3, 2005 Author Premium Members Report Share Posted November 3, 2005 If any of you are interested. With a ronford - baker snatch plate added for extra weight the movie tube balanced perfectly on my master film arm. Perfectly but at exactly the lightest setting of my springs, But perfectly none the less. The extra height is an issue with some shots. The image quality was easily as good as a PS techniks. The build quality and versatility I would say is better. I sometimes find the PS techniks to be a really "slow balancer" the movie tube is much tighter and more like a film camera. Better system overall I think.... If you can get your head around the extra camera height thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Tom Wills Posted November 3, 2005 Premium Members Report Share Posted November 3, 2005 If any of you are interested. With a ronford - baker snatch plate added for extra weight the movie tube balanced perfectly on my master film arm. Perfectly but at exactly the lightest setting of my springs, But perfectly none the less. The extra height is an issue with some shots. The image quality was easily as good as a PS techniks. The build quality and versatility I would say is better. I sometimes find the PS techniks to be a really "slow balancer" the movie tube is much tighter and more like a film camera. Better system overall I think.... If you can get your head around the extra camera height thing. Very, very cool. If the movietube were priced lower, I'm sure everyone would have them, but then again, it is a competitor to the Mini35, not the inexpensive ones out there. I do like the microcrystaline wax screen idea. Glad to see that it works well. Also, big thumbs up on the Camos. In fact, I'm practically positive that those are the same brand I wear. Almost a little creepy. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Charles Papert Posted November 4, 2005 Premium Members Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 And they use a vibrating ground glass vs. a rotating one like the mini35. The latest version of the Mini35, the 400 (or "Oszie"), uses an oscillating ground glass rather than rotating. Thanks for the pix of the Movietube, interesting to see how it looks in real life after the CAD drawings that were up on their site for the past few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Alec Jarnagin SOC Posted November 5, 2005 Moderators Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 The tall profile of the camera does have one advantage - a higher center of gravity. With arms like the PRO and the G-series that take much less weight, we are often limited by our sleds. My sled was designed for much heavier cameras and while I have the ability to swap to lighter monitors and batteries, the center post length was intended for heavier set-ups. The tall profile might just send our gimbals back up to normalville without adding much/any weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Robert Eder Posted November 6, 2005 Premium Members Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 Hey, From what I understand this is just a low-tech version of the mini/pro35 etc . That is, I believe you invert the camera on the setup - therefore eliminating the need for corrective optics. And they use a vibrating ground glass vs. a rotating one like the mini35. Perhaps then, in theory, this unit is less power hungrey and may give a image with more light transmission - but then you go through the glass on the dv camera..haha Looks promising though, let us know how it works. I am very excited to fly the mini35 this weekend :) ~C i think they use a still groundglass, not a oz. correct me if i am wrong! check out the g35, it uses a slill gg. too, is a cheapo unit but worth a look! http://www.guerilla35.com greetings, robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Thomas English Posted November 6, 2005 Author Premium Members Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 The movietube does not have a rotating ground glass but a film of microcrystalline fimscreen. The image looks great. If you want to remove the grain it is easier in post using "grain effects" as the grain is static. But it is very fine grain, much finer than the PStechniks (when not spinning). its really good. It is cheaper than the PStechniks but by no means a cheap version. It s very well built and has a prism so the camera can sit the right way up. Very solid and easier to operate handheld. A lot of the cheap units use ground CD s as the "gate" and are not comparable yet to the Movietube and PStechniks. They are certainly not good enough to take on a job for a client. All the pro s and cons of various units along with some incredible home ingenuity and engineering can be found on www.dvinfo.net By the way the promo was for Hard FI , new English band. watch it and judge for yourselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Morgan Lowndes Posted January 8, 2006 Premium Members Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Thomas Do you know where you can hire the mini 35 or movietube?? Now optex have gone down im not sure where to look... TIA Morgan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Burton Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 By the way the promo was for Hard FI , new English band. watch it and judge for yourselves. Where can i see the hard fi promo Tom ? -cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRIANBUSBY Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 HI FOR THE MINI 35 TRY SKARDA ON 020 7734 7776 BRIAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Thomas English Posted January 10, 2006 Author Premium Members Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 for the movie tube find "camera filters" in the UK. Contact movietube direct and ask them in the country of your choice. I have a friend who hire s his PS techniks mini35 if SKARDA is unavailable I will have a package available for the movie tube with zeiss superspeeds in the very near future. The Hard FI promo should be out now. I think you can download it to mobile phones as well. I will post when I know. Having way too much fun on holiday at the moment. By the time you have hired a movie tube and superspeeds you could have hired a varicam... different horses for courses but its just a thought. Cheers Thomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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