Moderators Janice Arthur Posted January 14, 2016 Moderators Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 Josh; Great, progress. Yes pictures will show if rig is front heavy, back heavy, top heavy or bottom heavy. That's it. this is not tough and you're issues are misunderstanding this all those books and tutorials you did you didn't get their meaning to you. ( side to side detail too but let's get him started.) No its not rocket science but your assessment of "spending hours" randomly adjusting things is not a process to understand balance. Janice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSC Posted January 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Lawrence I have done it all, step by step. its going 360 back to the same spot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSC Posted January 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 here is a link to a video, this was the best i can do, and sorry my hands are shaking after doing this for the last hour or so http://we.tl/x4eJmTktvA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Janice Arthur Posted January 15, 2016 Moderators Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Josh; From what I see front heavy camera, slightly; solution roll cam back just a 1/2" Might be out side to side a little adjust side to side knob. Floaty means too little bottom weight move gimbal up 1/2" Do u have a stand you can balance the rig on and rest it ? Janice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Lawrence Karman Posted January 15, 2016 Premium Members Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Josh, First off remove the strap from the camera and the lens cap. Believe it or not, that will effect the balance. Secondly, before you mount it to the Steadicam, attach the plate to the bottom of the camera (which you have already) sit the camera on a pencil or small tube and find the front to back balance point where it roughly balances on and then try and place that center point directly over the center of the Steadicam post. Same can be done with the side to side axis. If there is an adjustment screw on the top stage for side to side adjustment it looks like the camera needs to move to the right slightly. If not then use a different side to side hole on the dovetail plate to accomplish the same thing. If you run out of turns on the adjustment screws you will need to remount the camera in different holes on the dovetail plate. Also, as Janice has said, you may need to slide the gimbal up slightly to make it more bottom heavy. And all this would be easier to accomplish if you had a lighting or grip stand to mount this to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSC Posted January 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 thank because they made the handle in a shape you can't mount it on a light stand. would save me tones of time, I will try your suggestions and keep you update thanks for the support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Janice Arthur Posted January 15, 2016 Moderators Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Josh; Call up Tiffen and ask about docking stand I can't imagine there is nothing available. By the way this balancing still means you need to deal with operating and a class is the way to go. Lastly talk to tim tyler about signing in with a correct name. Where are u located? There has to be another op nearby. Janice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Chris Van Campen Posted January 15, 2016 Premium Members Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Hi Josh - what both Janice and Lawrence said!! Mostly, you have to lose the strap and cap... anything moving is bad news on a Steadicam, ESPECIALLY on a super light rig like a Solo. And even a lens cap will throw off the balance A LOT. Beyond that, you're not that far off. Get the weight up top centered, then it's just a matter of getting the right drop time. The Solo manual on Tiffen's site has a really well written set of instructions for setting this rig up; it's over 30 pages and quite extensive. http://www.tiffen.com/userimages2/Steadicam/LIT-821000-A.pdf Good luck... -C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSC Posted January 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 (edited) And yet i am in the same position i found myself more then 20 times by now, just can't do it. Every small tweak i do, is just going the other way, now it orbits, left right forward backwards can't figure it out Edited January 16, 2016 by LVSC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Janice Arthur Posted January 16, 2016 Moderators Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Josh; Where do u live? Janice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSC Posted January 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Las Vegas, NV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members RonBaldwin Posted January 16, 2016 Premium Members Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Jesus man -- call Robert Starling and offer a bottle of wine or two (or some ammo) then drive to him for an hour tutorial on balancing your rig. There are also others there with steadicams. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Janice Arthur Posted January 16, 2016 Moderators Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Josh Exactly what Ron said. Clearly there is some part you're missing and we and the books and tutorials can't get you to see it. Janice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Press Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Have you got a light stand? Do you have a clamp? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Victor Lazaro Posted January 17, 2016 Premium Members Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Slightly unrelated but I discovered that GPI PRO's arm post diameter was the same as a baby pin, I can balance my sled on a c stand if I wanted to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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