Rob Glessner Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Our shop is looking to get our first steadicam and based on our needs I think we are looking at the Aero 30 or Zephyr. We have three C300 Mark II Canons plus an Alexa Mini so relatively light camera packages. We have a series of Canon Prime lenses so we don't have a lens over three pounds. Looking to buy new and wondering if the Zephyr is worth the extra $5k? From reading other material on here it does appear the Zephyr is a better made product. However, it appears the Zephyr can only hold three more pounds than the Aero 30 holding up to 23 lbs as opposed to 20 lbs. We need a rig that 4-5 people on our staff will potentially use that can be a one-size fits all for beginners but at the same time be a quality product. The Aero 30 seems attractive because it can take a Canon Battery mount. Is the extra weight capability of the Zephyr a moot point considering the different types of batteries the two rigs could take? Based on our camera and lens package plus the number of people who could potentially use the rig, I'm wondering what Steadicam is best for us? I'd appreciate any information regarding the differences between the Aero 30 and the Zephyr. Thank you very much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cizko quevedo Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 (edited) I have a mint condition Zephyr . For sale. Flys my Alexa mini with Cooke anamorphics perfectly. Which is anywhere from 25-30lbs Edited December 4, 2018 by Cizko quevedo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Glessner Posted December 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Thanks for your reply Cizko Quevedo. Can you provide more information about your experience using the Zephyr? Like I said I'm trying to figure out what is best for my team since 4-5 people will potentially use the rig. I'd appreciate any feedback on the Zephyr or on the Aero 30 if you or anybody else has any experience and could share the pros and cons of each rig based on our needs. Thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cizko quevedo Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 I bought this for my brother. I Direct/DP. Wanted him to become a steadicam op. But he decided to stick to his engineering career. My Good friend also has the Zephyr. He flys my rig, on multiple gigs. Features, commercials, music videos etc. the Zephyr is maxing out with my camera package, which is heavier than most Alexa mini packages because of the lenses I have. But I’m not personally a steadicam op, I work with my friend every time who is, who owns the Zephyr as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cizko quevedo Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Your camera and lenses are much lighter than my package. I have no need for it. So it’s just sitting there. I was asking 6500$ for it but am open to negotiate . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cizko quevedo Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 I did talk to my steadicam guy. Who also flys the archer2 and the M1. He mentioned that the pros and cons between the aero30 and the Zephyr , is that the Zephyr is more bullet proof with a couple of more options. It’s a better built. The Zephyr is an good set up for an entry level steadicam as it’s easier to use than a more heavy duty set up. It’s lightweight, and for a light camera line the mini or a c300 it’s a good fit. With that said, it will be more squirrelly than a heavier duty one. But for a lightweight rig , it’s ideal. It’s lighter than heavier Steadicam’s and easier to use in its functionality . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Corey Hess Posted December 5, 2018 Premium Members Report Share Posted December 5, 2018 I own an Aero-30 and I'm very happy with its performance and portability. I haven't flown anything much heavier than a Mini with S4s, but I've still had plenty of lift room. The only downsides I can see are the limited power options and weight of the Aero sled, itself. Since it's a lightweight rig, it's a little more difficult to balance with a heavier camera load. That being said, Cizko's price for a Zephyr is very good and I'd definitely check it out if you're not specifically looking for a brand new rig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron Mitchell Posted December 5, 2018 Report Share Posted December 5, 2018 I just purchased an Aero rig, will tune back in with thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Glessner Posted December 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 Appreciate all the feedback. Corey or Cameron, how do you power your Aero 30? We would look to get Canon batteries if we went with an Aero 30 package to make a lighter load. I'm wondering if the extra weight a Zephyr can hold becomes a moot point since it takes heavier batteries with either V-Mount or Gold Mount. The Canon battery option is very attractive since we are moving toward Canon family cameras. However, we'd like the option to fly our Mini too. Our heaviest potential package would be the 5lb Mini and a 3lb lens on the Steadicam just factoring the camera and lens. I need to figure out if that heaviest potential package would still work well on an Aero 30 or if it would be better suited on a Zephyr. And again I'm wondering if the batteries make a big difference in weight between the two rigs. Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kisling Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 Hi Rob! I have the Aero 30. I like it, at times I wish I had the Zephyr. 3lbs doesn't sound like much, but, it can be very handy. It sounds like you know exactly what you want to fly, Canon/mini with canon lenses. It might be a good idea to build your typical camera package and then weigh it. I didn't see anything about a FIZ or teradek, so you might want to throw that on your build as well to see the added weight. That will give you a good idea of which rig would be best for you. Some advice I got in regarding to camera package/weight, you don't want to aways fly a camera package on the max end of your payload capacity, its good to be a little under. So if you are pushing it weight wise on the Aero 30, then the Zephyr might be a good idea. I would recommend going with Gold Mount over the Canon battery for the sled. And I think either the Aero 30 or Zephyr would be great for beginners. The Steadicam silver workshop uses both for new ops! Hope this helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Corey Hess Posted December 12, 2018 Premium Members Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 On 12/11/2018 at 9:58 AM, Rob Glessner said: Appreciate all the feedback. Corey or Cameron, how do you power your Aero 30? We would look to get Canon batteries if we went with an Aero 30 package to make a lighter load. I'm wondering if the extra weight a Zephyr can hold becomes a moot point since it takes heavier batteries with either V-Mount or Gold Mount. The Canon battery option is very attractive since we are moving toward Canon family cameras. However, we'd like the option to fly our Mini too. Our heaviest potential package would be the 5lb Mini and a 3lb lens on the Steadicam just factoring the camera and lens. I need to figure out if that heaviest potential package would still work well on an Aero 30 or if it would be better suited on a Zephyr. And again I'm wondering if the batteries make a big difference in weight between the two rigs. Thanks again I use Gold Mount, which is really useful as, again, since the sled is so light, I'm better able to balance larger builds. I believe Tiffen created the Aero as a replacement for Zephyr, although it was manufactured overseas (hence the price differences). Both of them can carry 20lbs+ camera payloads with no issue (Tiffen-recommended max for Zephyr is about 3lbs more than Aero-30), so your camera and lens combos should be no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Glessner Posted February 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 Sounds like Gold Mount is the way to go. I'm curious which type of Gold Mount battery that everybody uses. Which is the best as far as battery life? If it's a bigger battery then might need to factor the weight as well. Also need to get a wireless follow focus system. I know Kevin also mentioned FIZ & Teradek to factor into the weight which we definitely will. What do you as operators think some of the best wireless follow focus systems are? Looks like there's a wide range of pricing for them as well. I appreciate all the feedback we are actually really close to making this purchase now after a few months of research and raising more funds. Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cizko quevedo Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 Hey Rob. If you decide to go with the zephyr, I lowered the price on mine to 5700$ OBO. Still in mint condition. I would like to make a sale soon as I’m getting ready to shoot a personal project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Tyler Davis Posted March 4, 2019 Premium Members Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 Hey Rob, I’m very new to the forum but I can heavily weigh in on this conversation. I bought an Aero 30 about a year ago and have used it for a wide variety of gigs. My friend bought a brand new Zephyr a few months ago and we have practiced together. I have also taken a Bronze course at AbelCine, which provides both Aero 30 and Zephyr rigs for class. There are two major differences between the two systems (three of you count the rough ~5k price), and that is the sled and case. The Zephyr sled has one or two additional I/O signal ports, I can’t remember exactly which, and a larger stage. It also has a much better bottom/dynamic balancing system that allows for individual fine adjustments and numerous batteries to be mounted. The entire Zephyr system also ships in a hard case, which is super useful because any Aero owner can tell you the pains of figuring out a proper case situation... Tiffen only offers padded duffel bags for Aero kits. What’s bonkers to me is that both systems use the exact same arm and vest! As far as batteries go, it really doesn’t matter if you get V or AB. Totally user preference, decision is typically based on what existing batteries/plates you already own for other gear. Hindsight being 20/20, I would have bought a used Zephyr from this site last year. After some basic accessories and a Pelican case, I probably spent 6k new. Which seems to be the average price for a used Zephyr. Who knows, maybe after taxes I’ll actually do that myself! Feel free to ask me any questions if you still got em! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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