Premium Members Thomas English Posted May 26, 2006 Premium Members Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 Alf Love Foolosophy much respect! that is awesome work! really really good.... where a lot of these promo s we are looking at here the operating is profesionally good, the work on "Love Foolosophy" really really is inspiring to me..... So no rehearsals.... was it off the cuff you did those sudden sweeps accross him to the music? I assume you blocked it to the music quite a few times or did you just go ahead and shoot? There s a couple of operating tweeks you did in that promo which I find superb... no rehearsals! so when he stands on that podium you did nt anticipate it? .... Gosh... put s me in my place a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Charles Papert Posted May 26, 2006 Premium Members Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 This one's a bit of a curiousity from my past--I haven't watched it in years but this thread prompted me to see if it was on the web (and what isn't): http://stellasoleil.org "torch" When we arrived at the set, the sole concept that was in place was that the artist was going to "do her thing" which apparently meant scamper around on the furniture, and I was to follow her doing it in a single take. After a rehearsal or two where it became apparent that this was not going to be the most interesting video, I started to devise some bits of business to try to create some visual interest, such as having them build a "Pharoah-cam" platform to raise me up on at one point, the camera being spun around and also hit with the pillow, etc. Although I came up with a basic choreography for the artist, she still managed to bounce off in various directions at any given moment, which made things...interesting. After the final section (there are four or five cuts in the video, some more hidden than others--can't believe we did the flash photography gag which was a tired concept even in the Janet Jackson video from the 80's), the young lady fainted and once resuscitated, made it through the final section although in clearly subdued form! I can't say as I love the results and with all that was going on, the operating has plenty of warts, but I thought it might be worth posting anyway. Oh, and another one for the record that I absolutely love--Weezer's "Sweater Song" from the Spike Jonze DVD (same series as the Gondry one). Classic Spike concept, great execution by Brooks Robinson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Erik Brul Posted May 26, 2006 Premium Members Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 This one's a bit of a curiousity from my past--I haven't watched it in years but this thread prompted me to see if it was on the web (and what isn't): http://stellasoleil.org "torch" I can't say as I love the results and with all that was going on, the operating has plenty of warts, but I thought it might be worth posting anyway. Robinson. Charles, Have to say... interesting video ! After what you descibed what happened that day, the results are great ! Little bit scary girl but nice moves in such little room.. Erik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulEdwards Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 For anyone who's interested, the Steadicam on the Massive Attack - 'Safe From Harm' video was done by Andy Shuttleworth. I did do the Coldplay - 'Yellow' video on the beach. The whole thing was a "plan B". The director had a huge one shot steadicam sequence planned for the day using the sea, lots of extras, the beach, a boat and tents on the sand dunes. We managed to do one propper run through then the weather moved in with torrential rain and gail force winds! The video that was shot was done out of the neccessity to get something in the can! I had gyros and was surrounded by guys with 4x4's but the wind was so strong and blustery that they had to keep further away than ideal for fear of being blown into me. Oh happy days! Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Brad Grimmett Posted May 26, 2006 Premium Members Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 This one's a bit of a curiousity from my past--I haven't watched it in years but this thread prompted me to see if it was on the web (and what isn't): http://stellasoleil.org "torch" Good stuff. What year did you shoot this? Oh, and another one for the record that I absolutely love--Weezer's "Sweater Song" from the Spike Jonze DVD (same series as the Gondry one). Classic Spike concept, great execution by Brooks Robinson. I love that one too. For some reason I thought that Nicola Pecorini operated on that. Maybe he was the DP? Nice work by Brooks in any case. Does anyone know how they pulled off the beggining with the guys that are upside down? Were they just hanging upside down? Or maybe there was a cut? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Erwin Landau Posted May 27, 2006 Premium Members Report Share Posted May 27, 2006 Hi Donkey, You must hate you parents that gave you that name, especially with that last name... For ones I take my eyes of... Erwin"Name Police"Landau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Charles Papert Posted May 27, 2006 Premium Members Report Share Posted May 27, 2006 Good stuff. What year did you shoot this? 1998. I love that one too. For some reason I thought that Nicola Pecorini operated on that. Maybe he was the DP? Nice work by Brooks in any case. Does anyone know how they pulled off the beggining with the guys that are upside down? Were they just hanging upside down? Or maybe there was a cut? Shane Hurlbut (cameraman I've done a bunch of stuff with) shot that one. Almost positive that Brooks operated it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Charles Papert Posted May 28, 2006 Premium Members Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 I spoke to Shane yesterday and asked him again about "Sweater Song" , he had first told me about it five years ago or so. His official title on it was "lighting designer" but he doesn't remember there being an actual DP on set. It was in a transitional period where he was effectively working as a DP but still being nominally hired as a gaffer. I described Nicola to him, after all not the most invisible chap! but it didn't ring a bell. He's quite sure he created the lighting plan with all of the different looks/changes etc. And, he remembered it being Brooks operating, but he did say that this was years ago and he could be wrong. It's a bit strange. In any event, he did throw out the chestnut that the upside down guys at the beginning were hanging from gravity boots. And it was shot at Occidental Studios in Silverlake/Echo Park, formerly the Mary Pickford studio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Anders Holck Petersen Posted May 28, 2006 Premium Members Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 hWeezer - Sweater Song Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Guido Lux Posted May 28, 2006 Premium Members Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 How about this one,guys?!I thought it was pretty sweet! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B16mbNmMJCU...ronan%20keating Guido Lux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Thomas English Posted May 29, 2006 Premium Members Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 fink promo Dunno if your interested but here is a promo I shot a little while ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members brooksrobinson Posted May 30, 2006 Premium Members Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 Charles, I have worked with both Shane and Spike over the years, as well as with Weezer, but I didn't do the "Sweater Song" video. I know that Paul Taylor has worked with Spike many times, so maybe it was him. Good luck getting to the bottom of it. Brooks Robinson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Charles Papert Posted May 30, 2006 Premium Members Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 Thanks for clearing that up Brooks, I'll make sure to stab Shane for that one, or as he himself would put it, "douse him with lamp oil and set him on fire". That would make sense that it was Nicola who operated this particular video, then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Brad Grimmett Posted May 30, 2006 Premium Members Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 Mystery solved then....or so it seems... :ph34r: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Bill Brummond Posted May 30, 2006 Premium Members Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 I did the Destiny?s Child ? Emotions video. The concept was 3 individual single shot videos playing at the same time in a 1.85 frame. So each was in a .62 narrow frame. We shot all frames centered and then in post the frame was repositioned as needed. Each shot followed one of the artists in their own apartments/storylines. All 3 come together near the end of the video so timing was critical so it appeared that the action matched. We shot the video in a two story apartment building with a large interior lobby that ran the length of the building. The first apartment was in the back on the 1st floor, the third was in the front on the 1st floor, and the 2nd was in the front on the 2nd floor. It was shot over 2 days plus a short scout day. On the scout day the director walked me thru the first shot which was described as the most difficult. It started in the back apartment had many hard cues we had to hit. It moved out into the lobby, down a flight of stairs, back up the stairs, into the apt, out and to the front of the lobby, back to the back of the building and outside, back inside and into the apt, out and to the front of the lobby and into the third apt. Well, I reminded the director that we only had a 4 min video and didn?t think that we could make it. We ended up dropping the down stairs portion. Shoot day. Beyonce was in the 1st apartment. She worked with us for hours before she went to hair/makeup. She was one of the most professional performers I have worked with and really wanted to get it right. We worked with a stand-in to coordinate all the crap that had to happen behind the scenes. My assistant had his hands full for all the shots. We flew 2 Prestons. The 1st AC was pulling focus and iris and was next to camera as normal. He was on headset to the 2nd AC that had focus distances written down and was calling out focus marks, because much of the pulling was done blind due to physical constraints of the apartment. The 1st had to dodge electrics with chimeras that came in and out as well as me and Beyonce making some fast moves. (with the .62 frame, it was OK to have people in the outside .62 on either side of the 1.85 frame). The other Preston was zoom and was operated by the DP watching a monitor from an upstairs apartment. He also had cues and was making the size changes, of which there were many. It was many years ago but I think we did 20-30 walk thrus, 10-20 full-ish rehearsals and 12-16 takes. It must have been hard for Beyonce because I was on headset with the director giving her direction from him during the shot, such as to slow down, speed up, relax etc., as well as time cues and yelling cues to others, of course all this was over the loud playback. Lots of people had cues to get out of the way! We finished the first shot about 2p-3p. The crew and I were exhausted. Then we found out we were going to try to get the next shot as well. . . THAT DAY. The next shot started in the upstairs apt, moved out into the upstairs lobby, down the stairs out the lobby to a taxi, back inside, up the stairs in the apt living room, into the kitchen, out of the apt down the stairs AGAIN, into the lobby and into the 3rd apt. And we need to get this by sunset. . .in about 4 hours. As you can see by the video, the best take for me was not used in the final cut. The major obstacles for me were getting down the stairs. The building was built in the 20s or 30s and the staircase was very narrow and had a turn in the middle. The steps on the inside of the turn were 1?-2? wide so I could only walk on the outside. Time for some creative arm movement. Also the ceiling above the stairs was about 6.5? and had a drop down sprinkler pipe running along it, so booming up was out of the question. Also the director wanted a two shot of them walking down the stairs together. . .IN A .62 FRAME! And the best part was the last 5 steps at the bottom were higher then all the previous steps. I basically ended up falling down the last 5 steps just to keep up. I couldn?t have a spotter because there was just no room and I was running down the stairs with my assistant. I think he might have had a spotter. We get outside only to have the sun blasting right at the front of the building. You can really see the iris pull. I hate the flare. And you can see the camera shadow on her. I remember that I tried to get them to break up the shot so we could avoid the shadow, but that?s not what the director wanted. Timing, timing, timing. Being the 2nd shot now realized how critical the timing was at the end when the girls came together. I think we only did about 3-4 full rehearsals and 14 takes. I limited my rehearsals because of the stair work. I spent a lot of time, without the rig, on the stairs figuring out were I would be and in what position. Also, where all the other behind the scenes players would be. Lots of people hiding. Again the DP was making zoom changes with the 2nd Preston and the 2nd AC was calling out focus cues over headset to the 1st AC while watching a monitor. I should say that the grips and electrics on this job were outstanding. I have worked with them on and off for years. They seem to enjoy their work, which is rare these days, and I can rely on them to back me up. We all accommodate and respect each other?s positions. Shoot day 2 was much easier than the first. We shot the third performance in the lower front apt and hall. It was slower movement but confined spaces. I think the crew and I were exhausted from day one and liked the slower pace. I was mostly happy with the work at the end of the shoot. I really thought we had a good concept and product. But, after seeing the video I think the video doesn?t work. There is too much happening in frame and the viewer can?t understand all the storylines. In post they did adjust the .62 to enlarge at certain points to emphasize individual frames. I have worked for this production company occasionally over the years and they are one of the best. The producer even gave me a generous bonus at the end because the whole video was steadicam and worked out so well. A funny little story. The three apartments used were repainted for the shoot the day before the scout. On the scout day it was decided that the colors were not what was desired and all three apartments were repainted overnight. Then after the shoot, the apartments were again painted with what ever color the tenants desired. Three different paint jobs in one week! Bill Brummond Recovering Crane Diver (don?t try this at home) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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