Premium Members Stephen Murphy Posted January 6, 2007 Premium Members Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 In Erwin's quote above, when Chivo was fighting for Steadicam in the beginning and they did 5 takes before doing it handheld... Is George also a Steadicam operator? Curious. . Hi Will - Yes George Richmond is also a Steadicam Op - You can see some of his work in Alexander. Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Kareem La Vaullee Posted January 6, 2007 Premium Members Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 Yes George Richmond is also a Steadicam Op - You can see some of his work in Alexander. George Richmond... Alexander... It reminded me that I have a picture that fits both informations, have a look : K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Burton Posted January 6, 2007 Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 Fantastic picture Kareem. Steadicam and handheld all at the same time :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members nealnorton Posted January 9, 2007 Premium Members Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 I saw the movie last night. I think the director should have listened to his cameraman. The 'Clive on the run" sequence was very powerful and I felt very much a part of the action. Much of the rest of the film, I just found the handheld camera a little annoying. The premise seemed pretty weak. A strong premise isn't really important for an action movie but this movie seemed to ask for a level of belief that was hard for me to generate. When faced with a great crisis, how do people really behave? Why would people at the end of the world behave in the way proposed? How would you coerce/force people to be soldiers? Did not seem very well thought out to me. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Peter Abraham Posted January 20, 2007 Premium Members Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Zut Alors !!! C'est un Goufée !!!! ;) That's ok. We like him anyway. :D I am dying to see this film, and having read this thread, moreso. Perhaps this week, I am travelling in Mississippi all week and may find a cinema nearby. Peter Abraham New York Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Erwin Landau Posted January 21, 2007 Premium Members Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 I liked the film a lot and the operating was outstanding... Just to much handheld for my personal taste, especially in the more tender moments, the movement took me out of the movie and made me reach for my Dramamine (seasickness remedy). Still a must see movie... scarily contemporary and we are heading straight for it... Erwin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Burton Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 Just letting people know who haven't seen the film yet, it's out on DVD now ! -matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Afton Grant Posted January 21, 2007 Premium Members Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 Hey Matt, I'm not sure if it's different in the UK, but it's still in the theaters here in the states. Although, I'm sure you COULD get it on DVD if you wandered around Chinatown for a bit. Those copies come with a completely different set of bonus footage. -Afton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Garrett Brown Posted January 21, 2007 Premium Members Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 Those pirate dvd's can be beneficial if the handheld camera in the theater happens to be out of phase, shakewise, with the handheld shot on screen... then it looks good! a terrific film, and George is a superb operator (Steadicam and otherwise!) GB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Thomas English Posted January 22, 2007 Premium Members Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 I learnt a lot from that movie with regards to the awesome lighting, operating and varying use of camera edgyness depending on how comfortable you were asked to feel. Fantastic art department, highly realisistic stunts and effects, such a huge relief from the contrived junk you mostly see in present day higher budget action films. I liked it... could have had a slightly darker ending. (never seen the sea at bexhill so calm... lovely) you should all watch 28 days later and dogsoldiers as many of you probably have already. How the hell did they do that baby coming out sequence! (children of men) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members GregSchmitt Posted January 22, 2007 Premium Members Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 this link gives a pretty good description of the baby sequence as well as some pictures of the car rig. http://www.fxguide.com/article390.html pretty amazing piece of work over all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Lawrence Karman Posted January 22, 2007 Premium Members Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 How the hell did they do that baby coming out sequence! (children of men) The baby was 100% CG. Amazing. The sequence was shot by the 2nd unit, with Lubetski's input. Fantastic job all around, even without Steadicam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Burton Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 Hey Matt, I'm not sure if it's different in the UK, but it's still in the theaters here in the states. Although, I'm sure you COULD get it on DVD if you wandered around Chinatown for a bit. Those copies come with a completely different set of bonus footage. -Afton Nope it's out on official dvd to rent release here in the uk (I sore it advertised on TV) :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Peter Abraham Posted January 28, 2007 Premium Members Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Well, moviegoing experiences like this one and the varied opinions are what make this a great board. I was completely emotionally engaged in this film. The hand held work was beyond anything I've seen in a long time. Lovely work, just lovely. A good reminder to us all that we are not owners of the frame, but we are very much so stewards of the frame edges. The amount of motion, the compositional choices and key marks we use along the frame edge define the world we show, and therefore help to tell the story. The actors are acting, but are doing do within the frame we own. I want to see it again in a theatre. Peter Abraham New York Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Williams Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Wonderful hand held. I had thought there was some kinda doggie cam in this? When the protagonist is at the bar in the old mans house and they are talking about him in the BG there is a little move in. To me this is the kind of place where the camera needs to be more tightly controlled Steadi/dolly/small crane/ to have the move absolutely unnoticeable. Even the best hand held and this is some of it has a certain edgy uneven quality that would have been nicer to my eye to reserve for the more active and out of control environments. In a strange way this "were not gonna use it" is like a weird reverse of all the times the Steadi comes out and they won't use the dolly anymore to the detriment of the film.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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