the 600 union

[mark morgan]

please guys don't beat me up here

my question is this,if you are working on a

lets say "b" or less rated film

and you are not in the 600 union

can they keep you from working

if you are contracted as an owner operator

whether it be steadicam,technojib, technocrane, or moco operator

 

peace

[Robert Starling SOC]

my question is this,if you are working on a

lets say "b" or less rated film

and you are not in the 600 union

can they keep you from working

if you are contracted as an owner operator

whether it be steadicam,technojib, technocrane, or moco operator

 

Hi Mark, I'm a relatively new Local 600 member and can't give you a 100% but you'll at least find a partial answer to your question in the "Know Your Rights" section of the IATSE 600 web site. www.cameraguild.com. There's also some more info on www.lenswoman.com in her Union section.

 

Hawaii falls into the District 2 / Western Region but whether Hawaii is a right to work state or not is something you'll have to find out if you don't already know the answer. I'm a member of the Local 720 in Las Vegas as well and it's completely loosey goosey there as to who gets on jobs or not.

 

The biggest hurdle here in LA is getting on the Industry Experience Roster which is administrated by the Contract Services Administration Trust Fund. If you don't know what that is yet, dig in because there's not enough pixels on the Forum to try to explain that whole process. After you get on the IER, then you go through the Safety Pass Program, apply to the 600 and write one big check or a medium check and two years of smaller checks.

 

The initiation fee is substantial and a bit of a bite but so is losing a job opportunity if you're not a member if that were to ever be the case.

[mark morgan]

aloha robert

thanks buddy

yeah i have actually sent contract services my 100 days of work

with check stubs,what each event was where it went

whether it was tape,live to tape,live or even just dvd series

also letter heads from the companys and then contract services tells me they want copys of my invoices

 

at that point i was stuck in a bad way

our house was broken into computer and alot of other goodies where stolen

and then i also delete my old invoice after a

certain amount of time because i need the space

my bad for not backing them up on a differnt hard drive

lesson learned

so not only do i own my own steadicam rig i also own a couple of jibs and a technojib

this is the reason i am wondering about the owner operator thing

 

i went to the rights to work part of there website but it was rather vague

but once again thanks for the help

 

oh and i still have your sticker on my case from when you where at tiffen

i laugh all the time when i see that

[Kris Torch Wilson]

aloha dude,

 

bad news about the house. Hope the bastards fall into a volcano.

 

several years ago before I was in the union, I worked on several union jobs as a contractor. the problem was with the stagehands that found out and refused to help. we were in atlantic city and i think the producer greased a palm or two just to get through the day. he then politely told me he couldn't use me again until I joined. i have been on several jobs here recently where the jib op was non union and billed through his company without any problems, so it can be done.

 

Torch

[mark morgan]

aloha dude,

 

bad news about the house. Hope the bastards fall into a volcano.

 

several years ago before I was in the union, I worked on several union jobs as a contractor. the problem was with the stagehands that found out and refused to help. we were in atlantic city and i think the producer greased a palm or two just to get through the day. he then politely told me he couldn't use me again until I joined. i have been on several jobs here recently where the jib op was non union and billed through his company without any problems, so it can be done.

 

Torch

 

 

thanks chris

hope all is well with you and the fam

always look for you when i see the jimmy show