Premium Members Charles Papert Posted October 19, 2008 Premium Members Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 Jon brings up something I forgot--very common to NOT have a downconverter on a RED job unless you specifically insist on one. The RED monitor is not great for Steadicam as it has limited vertical viewing angle and daylight visibility. The sad reality is that many RED jobs are with privately owned cameras and advance requests for long monitor cables, lightweight rod systems etc. are met with "we don't have that, you'll have to make do". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Gish Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 (edited) Jon brings up something I forgot--very common to NOT have a downconverter on a RED job unless you specifically insist on one. The RED monitor is not great for Steadicam as it has limited vertical viewing angle and daylight visibility. The sad reality is that many RED jobs are with privately owned cameras and advance requests for long monitor cables, lightweight rod systems etc. are met with "we don't have that, you'll have to make do". Right, this is a film school project being shot in Manhattan streets at night. The director knows another film school student that bought a Red and is renting it out for fairly cheap to help cover their purchase. The director also knows another film school student that owns a Glidecam V-20, but doesn't seem to have much experience with it. So I'm definitely going to have to make do. I did mention to the director the need to rent a Bartech or something, and the issue of longer cables, and he said that was do-able. I'm supposed to meet with the director and DP sometime this week to work out the technical details. I own a Steadicam Pilot, and have a fair amount of experience with that, but this will be my first time flying a bigger rig. I did use a Flyer with an HVX-200, lens-adapter and rods at the 2-day workshop, and that didn't feel much different than my Pilot with 10 pounds of weight. I seem to have the balance thing with the hips pretty well down, and I'm fairly strong, so I'm not expecting any problems. We'll see. Any advice here? The director also said that he would be willing to get the Glidecam a day early to give me a chance to get familiar with it. At this point, I'm more concerned with making sure that everything will work with the Red, particularly the 26 pound weight limit and monitor/battery/cable issues. I guess a I could make an extra trip into the city to practice with the rig the night before. What do you think? I'm in the process of assembling a complete Steadicam accessory package for RED that will be available for rent shortly, maybe I can get you the partial package for your shoot if you need it Dave. Yes, I'm interested. I'll shoot you a private email. Edited October 19, 2008 by Dave Gish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Mike Germond SOC Posted October 20, 2008 Premium Members Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 Charles, I'd also be interested to see what sort of package you come up with. I'm going to build my own power cables because I have the resources to do so and the required soldering experience, but that's the extent of my knowledge with the RED One.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Gish Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 (edited) I'm going to build my own power cables because I have the resources to do so and the required soldering experience, but that's the extent of my knowledge with the RED One.. I also make my own cables. Where do you get the Red connectors? Also, how do you know how the contacts are wired? Edited October 20, 2008 by Dave Gish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Mike Germond SOC Posted October 20, 2008 Premium Members Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 Yea I have pinouts for all of the lemo connectors on the RED One. I also have the model #'s for the RED One power input and the 3-pin lemo on my flyer.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Gish Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 Yea I have pinouts for all of the lemo connectors on the RED One. I also have the model #'s for the RED One power input and the 3-pin lemo on my flyer.. Where do you buy your lemo connectors? Where did you get the pinouts for all of the lemo connectors on the RED One? What kind of bulk cable do you use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Mike Germond SOC Posted October 20, 2008 Premium Members Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 (edited) Multiconductor wire discussion: Reduser.net Mouser.com: LEMO Circular Interconnects Shoot me an e-mail about the pinouts...don't want to harm anybody elses business on the forums. Edited October 20, 2008 by Mike Germond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Jess Haas SOC Posted October 20, 2008 Premium Members Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 The pinouts have been published and are public information. I don't think anyone would mind you posting them, I even think they are around here on the forum somewhere already. Besides thats a silly reason not to share such information. ~Jess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Gish Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 Jon brings up something I forgot--very common to NOT have a downconverter on a RED job unless you specifically insist on one. A downconverter seems like it would make this shoot a lot more simple, especially for hooking up both wireless and steadicam video monitors. Is this a common rental item? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Alfeo Dixon SOC Posted October 21, 2008 Premium Members Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 A downconverter seems like it would make this shoot a lot more simple, especially for hooking up both wireless and steadicam video monitors. Is this a common rental item? Very common for HD projects. A lot of steadi-ops do not have HD monitors and HD transmitters are just getting to the market that are within a reasonable price range and workable lag. Not to mention that cameras that also output a SD signal are now becoming more prevalent on the scene. It's odd that RED never attempted this also... unless they are planning to release the "RED-Converter" -Alfeo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Vanderspek Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 A downconverter seems like it would make this shoot a lot more simple, especially for hooking up both wireless and steadicam video monitors. Is this a common rental item? Very common for HD projects. A lot of steadi-ops do not have HD monitors and HD transmitters are just getting to the market that are within a reasonable price range and workable lag. Not to mention that cameras that also output a SD signal are now becoming more prevalent on the scene. It's odd that RED never attempted this also... unless they are planning to release the "RED-Converter" -Alfeo Wouldn't be surprised to see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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