Premium Members Charles King Posted January 23, 2009 Author Premium Members Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Aggressive Matteo...nnnnooooooooooooo!!!! ;) Peace toyou buddy. Will the Admin sticky this? If not it will just get buried in the forums for nothing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Matteo Quagliano Posted January 23, 2009 Premium Members Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 LET'S STICK IT!!! ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Brian Walters Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 (edited) I've resisted posting here, for one big reason. I'm inexperienced, there's alot to still be read in the archives/search, and I feel this is a place for the big boys. I'd like to point out that charles gave a great alternative to big rigs, in the site HBS. He and other members there have been of great help to me, and they have a wealth of info and expertise in the use of lower-budget rigs there. I don't personally think the repetition of questions is justified in any case, and certainly not on a professional board specializing in a certain kind of product. You don't ask about a Pinto on a BMW site just because they are both cars(unless there is a "other brand cars section")...or about riding a unicycle in the circus on a professional mountain biking forum because they both have spoked wheels. In addition, a forum in general, as a concept has been around for awhile, usually has a rules section for newbies, and usually includes the mention of trying the search function. What has been said is par for the course, and if you can't handle the norm for forums, then perhaps you should stick to something else besides forums, such as a local rental house, store, etc. where the people are expected and expect to answer all and any question, regardless of it's frequency. I'll post again sometime in the future after I have exhausted the search/archive, have my Steadicam SK2 in hand, and have valid questions. Edited January 26, 2009 by Nick Brian Walters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Eric Fletcher S.O.C. Posted January 26, 2009 Premium Members Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 I'll post again sometime in the future after I have exhausted the search/archive, have my Steadicam SK2 in hand, and have valid questions. Post your question's if you can't find an answer in the archives. We are here to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Matteo Quagliano Posted January 26, 2009 Premium Members Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 But in the end where's the problem of an unansweared question? What's that causes so many pain? If people do not want to answear they'll simply don't do it. In italy we go like this: asking is lawful, responding is politeness. That's for me cuts the dramma about repeated questions. I'm with Chrles for everything else he mention on the list but not on this. If not what's the meaning of a newbie section? Let's just close it and everything'll disappear as for magic but I don't think people here want that. p.s. it happens to me as well to be responded do a search but as written before then a discussion flows with very interesting points both for big guys and little boys. I'll keep going on my way untill expelled from the forum (AH AH AH). Eric, we know it and we really appreciate even if sometimes we look like donkeys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Charles King Posted January 26, 2009 Author Premium Members Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 But in the end where's the problem of an unansweared question? What's that causes so many pain? If people do not want to answear they'll simply don't do it. In italy we go like this: asking is lawful, responding is politeness. That's for me cuts the dramma about repeated questions. I'm with Chrles for everything else he mention on the list but not on this... Ok, let'say everyone would just post the same questions over and over and over without even bother to do a search. That's what the 'search button is for. Then we'll have hundrads of post with the same questions all over the forum. One of the major reasons why some post do not get replies is because 99% of the time, that same question has been answered before. ;) Again, I am not saying nebies cannot post simple or what may seem obvious questions; but if the question has been asked before then why post it again. A simple search would suffice. If you cannot find it then by all means...post it. The nebie forum is exactly that...as forum for newbies..but with one monkey wrench...It should questions pertaining to Steadicam or high end systems for those just coming into the field. Of course anybody can ask questions concerning operating a rig(any rig for that matter) as it is a basic of the steadicam operating scenerio. So it covers all aspect of any stabilizer regardless of brand. The only thing I was stressing was questions like: What should I choose a flycam 6000, GC 4000 smooth shooter or a Basson rig??? Again, these are not my words alone but post that have been responded to by other members on this forum since a long time ago. So, I hope you do get it better, now. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Eric Fletcher S.O.C. Posted January 26, 2009 Premium Members Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 Again, I am not saying nebies cannot post simple or what may seem obvious questions; but if the question has been asked before then why post it again. A simple search would suffice. If you cannot find it then by all means...post it. The nebie forum is exactly that...as forum for newbies..but with one monkey wrench...It should questions pertaining to Steadicam or high end systems for those just coming into the field. Of course anybody can ask questions concerning operating a rig(any rig for that matter) as it is a basic of the steadicam operating scenerio. So it covers all aspect of any stabilizer regardless of brand. The only thing I was stressing was questions like: What should I choose a flycam 6000, GC 4000 smooth shooter or a Basson rig??? My $.02 Search The Archives Be respectful Ask the question in The Newbie forum, if we the mods think that it belongs in a different section we will move it. Don't ask the same question in multiple sub forums Limit it to Professional Rigs and Professional Work Please don't try convince us (those who have been doing it forever and flown most every rig built) that a Basson or Smooth Shooter and that type of rig is "just as good" as a XCS Ultimate/PRO/Ultra Live by those rules and you'd be surprised what you can learn and be exposed to Just saying... :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Alec Jarnagin SOC Posted January 27, 2009 Moderators Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 Yeah, Eric, you go mate. That pretty much sums it up folks! Charles, thanks for taking the reins. I've been tempted to say much of that for a long, long time, but ultimately, it works better coming from the users..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Charles King Posted January 27, 2009 Author Premium Members Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 Charles, thanks for taking the reins. I've been tempted to say much of that for a long, long time, but ultimately, it works better coming from the users..... No problem. I just did not want the newbies to surfer any ill-fate :P If Eric can sticky this it will be great. That's if he things it's worth a sticky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Brook Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 Well, I have a question then. What constitutes a professional rig? I thought professional meant that in some way shape or form you are making money, doesn't that mean any rig could be professional? Or if you are talking about how much the rig can hold then would Glidecams, Action cams, and the new Satchler devices all suffice? I am just a newbie myself so that is why I am posing these questions. I wouldn't want to make the mistake of posting in the wrong area. Also when exactly would I be able to post in the other sections of this board other then the "Steadi-Newbies" section? Is there an allotted amount of time that I have to be flying? Number of gigs I have had to have done? Certain device I would have own? I understand the part about searching for a question us "newbs" have. I am guilty of it and I am sure that when I search I can find an abundant amount of information about the subject that I need to know about. But as far as talk about "professional rigs" I was wondering if you could clarify that a little bit better. I mean, when I first came to the site I thought that this was just a site for specific Steadicam brand devices. But seeing that Glidecam advertises on here along with the forum title reading "Motion Picture Camera Stabilization Specialists", I guess I just figured all types of stabilizer talk was acceptable, not only that but also encouraged. Again I am only a newb but I would think to stay on top of one's game that they would want to keep up to date on all the latest parts and systems coming out so the operator can offer their client the latest and greatest, at least that is what I plan on doing. Maybe I just assumed far to much on here, so if the "Pros" don't mind could they explain what they mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Eric Fletcher S.O.C. Posted January 28, 2009 Premium Members Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Well, I have a question then. What constitutes a professional rig? How about we use this as a criteria. If it has an arm, Uses a monitor not attached to the camera for framing, has provisions for a remote follow focus to mount, uses professional batteries (ie no lead acid) uses Lemo connectors and doesn't use washers or weight plates to adjust drop time. Hows that? As to the other questions Please refer to The Forum Guidelines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Brook Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 So I read the Forum Guidelines and I am not sure how they pertain to my post at all. If you think that I am trying to be sarcastic in anyway (I guess I could see how my post could be taken that way) let me assure you I am not. Those are legitimate question and I was wondering if someone could give me some answers. Again, I am just a newb, so it is entirely possible that I misunderstood this whole forum and what it is here for. Sorry if I offended anyone. I was just looking for someone with some knowledge and experience to help me out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Eric Fletcher S.O.C. Posted January 28, 2009 Premium Members Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 So I read the Forum Guidelines and I am not sure how they pertain to my post at all. If you think that I am trying to be sarcastic in anyway (I guess I could see how my post could be taken that way) let me assure you I am not. Those are legitimate question and I was wondering if someone could give me some answers. Again, I am just a newb, so it is entirely possible that I misunderstood this whole forum and what it is here for. Sorry if I offended anyone. I was just looking for someone with some knowledge and experience to help me out. I'm not sure why you are posting this. If you have a question search, if it's not answered post it up here in the newbies section, we all read it. As to when it's time for you to post outside of the newbies forum, well get your rig and fly for a bit, do some gigs. This board is an extension of the old AOL Steadicam Boards, as such it's a place for Working Pro's to talk about gear, work practices and the work environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Jimmy Green Posted March 8, 2009 Premium Members Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 I just have to ask: What exactly is a "higher brand system"? and What exactly is "low budget production"? You're saying if i have a steadicam rig and have a question but i'm working on a low budget or no budget project, i have no right to ask a question? I don't understand that logic. I thought forums were supposed to help people who have a technical problem or question about the specific rig. I come to steadicam for questions regarding my rig, go to hvx or red for questions regarding those... and by the way, i don't find the searches all that "simple". In fact they are rather impossible. My nickel .49. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Members Eric Fletcher S.O.C. Posted March 8, 2009 Premium Members Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 I just have to ask: What exactly is a "higher brand system"? and What exactly is "low budget production"? You're saying if i have a steadicam rig and have a question but i'm working on a low budget or no budget project, i have no right to ask a question? I don't understand that logic. I thought forums were supposed to help people who have a technical problem or question about the specific rig. I come to steadicam for questions regarding my rig, go to hvx or red for questions regarding those... and by the way, i don't find the searches all that "simple". In fact they are rather impossible. My nickel .49. Read the following post for your answers: Post 1 Post 2 Post 3 Bottom line this is an extension of the Old Steadicam Board on AOL where Professional's got together to talk about Professional Rig's and Professional Issues. How's that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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