Nano flash recorder

[Tom Daigon]

Yes and the context may not have been apparent to those of us using a different work flow (due to the wide variances in camera stabilizer uses these days). So the innocent desire to share information and participate in dialog need not be met with condescending or rude responses from isolated members. The desire to stay on topic is understood, but an appreciation that we all dont approach this and other subjects from the same angle should allow for a less rigid approach to topics and a little decency in dialog. If not, then this is a good argument to limit this forum to only camera stabilizer users that all work in the same arena and dont want to be distracted with the involvement of "amateurs".

Edited November 27, 2010 by Tom Daigon

[RonBaldwin]

The original intent of this board was to service professional Steadicam ops that worked within the LA type models of film / video productions (i.e. directors , ADs, Cam Ops, ACs, etc).

 

hmmmm, LA type productions -- that is funny. You might substitute "professional" for "LA" or you will upset the rest of the world's film/video community.

 

This thread reminds me of the old figure of speech "jack of all trades, master of none." Maybe that makes some of you steadicam generalists, not steadicam specialists (not a bad thing, just different).

 

As Robert mentioned, Steve Fracol does use the Nanoflash and has saved the day a few times when a particular take wasn't on the tape/drive/stone tablet/whatever medium they were recording on. He said the quality wasn't as good but it was passable enough to complete the scene for the folks at home who seem to be too busy watching reality shows anyway. I too have wanted an onboard recorder for eons, but like charles haven't found one I like

 

rb

[RonBaldwin]

Yes and the context may not have been apparent to those of us using a different work flow (due to the wide variances in camera stabilizer uses these days). So the innocent desire to share information and participate in dialog need not be met with condescending or rude responses from isolated members. The desire to stay on topic is understood, but an appreciation that we all dont approach this and other subjects from the same angle should allow for a less rigid approach to topics and a little decency in dialog. If not, then this is a good argument to limit this forum to only camera stabilizer users that all work in the same arena and dont want to be distracted with the involvement of "amateurs".

 

Not necessarily talking about this thread, but talking about the forum in general and the huge influx of newer ops (most of whom are serious and want to learn...some seem a bit misguided in their quest for money and world domination) -- I can certainly understand the crankiness of some having to answer the same question over and over. I ignore most that is on here and sift through many threads to get to one that I might want to read... unfortunately many experienced ops don't stop by anymore because of this. But this forum is for learning and sharing info so that's just the way it is.

 

All I am trying to say is that the search feature is your friend -- and so is a workshop.

 

rb

[James Davis]

Great input as always Charles, always interested to hear what you have to say on things and your take on various solutions. By the way was that your custom Digital SLR Steadicam rig features on Vincent La Foret's blog video?

The reason I spoke up about the whole Codec thing, is that while it may not be important to those who exclusively operate and have no other role on set or within a production, some people like myself (and Tom I am guessing), have some involvement in the post side of things, and I for one would not be able to justify that kind of expenditure for something to use just to play back my shots to check everything is ok, if you are on a big Feature Film, getting a big rate, on a tight schedule, I can understand how it may be beneficial, or worth the money to get high quality, high speed playback, but not for someone like me at present, as most of my steadicam work is done on corporate videos, low-mid budget music videos, and promotional video's for various businesses, and a couple more minutes to play back a take on the video assist is not make or break for me, although I understand it may be for people working on higher budget work.

Just adding my two pence.

[Charles Papert]

Not sure of the particular video but it probably was mine, Vincent and I have collaborated quite a bit in the past year. re: your low to mid budget music videos; I've shot a lot of those in the past year and they have all been on breakneck shooting schedule, I would have been smacking my Steadicam operator if he'd been slowing us down with fiddly playback! Can I come over to the UK and shoot some leisurely videos??!

 

Let's not beat this to death fellas. I guess we truly have arrived at that point in the forum where osmosis has diluted the original intent, which was to service the folks who are truly Steadicam specialists (well-played a Ron on coining the term "Steadicam generalist"). Up until now it was pretty well understood that, for instance, the discussion of a recorder in this section of the forum was referring to personal playback, but I see that looking through from the beginning of the thread it wasn't specified as such and it quickly morphed into a discussion of the appropriateness of these units for primary acquisition. As I said, it's all good discourse and worthwhile to those who work with the footage (and I am much more involved in that side of it now than the Steadicam side, so it was useful for me). However, as Eric said (he can be blunt, but his point was well-taken)--what's that got to do with Steadicam, and our particular onboard recording needs? We've had years and years of discussion on the subject right here, have seen potential dream units come and go (try searching Chasecam) and in some cases spent time and money researching the solutions (I've had many conversations with various companies at NAB trying to get them to make what we want). So I hope you guys can get that it can be frustrating to have to explain what used to be mutually understood by all participants--and those that didn't get it learned quietly on the sidelines, as we all did when we started out.

[Sydney Seeber]

product from AJA

That thing and others like it exist solely for the purpose of promoting Apple products. In the large scheme of things it's really unnecessary... Unless someone wants to stick with a 100% Apple sponsored production from script to screen. And I am well aware that some do.